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    Airspace and Approach Plates

    I always find it funny when trainees make a big deal about learning the academy airspace, airport layout and various approach plates. Most are ignorant to the amount of airspace they actually need to know during stage 1 training. It is a beast. I work at anchorage center (zan) and I could fit more fixes under my thumb than what is on the entire academy map.

    Please share how many maps you needed to learn along with approach plates for en route folks and for tower and tracon share your material as well.

    I had to learn 5 maps total. One was fairly small because it was the polar routes above Alaska. The others were an ocean map with airways going to japan called the NOPAC, a map with all the victor airways, fixes, and navaids. I think there was around 30+ navaids several hundred fixes and 100+ airways. A high area map with around 100+ fixes and airways. Last map was colored airspace, we have a lot of military airspace in Alaska so this map had a bunch of entries also. In addition to those maps whatever area you are assign you will have your sector maps which you are expected to label all airways, navaids, fixes, MEA, MIA's, obstructions and other important information. The approach plates are limited at maybe 5-8 for your area and obviously none for the highsides. I am in flight data so I did not do sector maps or approach plates.

    What's it like where your at? I am headed to ZOA soon, please let me know what to expect!

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    Re: Airspace and Approach Plates

    Whats the best way to learn the maps? I'm a tower dude, so no idea

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    Re: Airspace and Approach Plates

    Easiest way to DRAW (not learn) a map is to make a pattern and do the same exact thing everytime you draw the map. This is NOT the best way to learn the material, but the easiest way to draw and map and get it finished. 99% of the stuff on a map are not needed anyway(atleast in an Enroute enviroment). Nobody knows/cares on the floor about mileages or some crummy intersection...generally they only know the 5 or so intersections you actually use, and if you need one then there is about 20 giant maps all around the area to find what you need or URET has them as well.

    ZME we have 4 maps... Center Hi/Lo, Area High/Lo. That is all

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    Re: Airspace and Approach Plates

    Quote Originally Posted by SCOPED View Post
    What's it like where your at? I am headed to ZOA soon, please let me know what to expect!
    you can expect more of the same at ZOA. if you go oceanic you may be in luck since it seems you learned some of the oceanic routes.

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    Re: Airspace and Approach Plates

    Quote Originally Posted by UNDgrad06 View Post
    Easiest way to DRAW (not learn) a map is to make a pattern and do the same exact thing everytime you draw the map. This is NOT the best way to learn the material, but the easiest way to draw and map and get it finished. 99% of the stuff on a map are not needed anyway(atleast in an Enroute enviroment). Nobody knows/cares on the floor about mileages or some crummy intersection...generally they only know the 5 or so intersections you actually use, and if you need one then there is about 20 giant maps all around the area to find what you need or URET has them as well.

    ZME we have 4 maps... Center Hi/Lo, Area High/Lo. That is all
    ZDV: I had 6 in stage 2. Center Hi, Center Lo, Area High, Area Low, High above low, SUA. Stage 3 was more of the same but far more detailed about everything. A side note I find funny as hell is the ZLA guys have to learn the radials of every airway in ZLA airspace as their first map test. Must be some sick right of passage or something.

    As for learning them yes, you draw them over and over and over and over and over and did I mention over and over and over... The only difference I have via what UND said, is this is a great way to learn how to draw your maps but the best way to learn how to apply them (though you dont usually use most of what you learned to draw) is to draw them in a different order, get things out of order, etc.

    I laugh at people who complain about how much there is to learn on the academy map. Sure, it seems like a lot but if that freaks you out, center is not for you...
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    Re: Airspace and Approach Plates

    don't forget how nice and round the numbers are in aerocenter land plus the frequency line up quite well...

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    Re: Airspace and Approach Plates

    Mnemonic devices work wonders. For numbers, like radials and distances, look for mathematical relations, that kind of thing. For routes, find some significance to tie together the fixes. I had one about nappy trailer trash hair. Never forgot route... uh... whichever route that was.

    Anyway, worked for me. Before long, most people figure out a rhythm without focusing too much on any particular method.
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    Re: Airspace and Approach Plates

    eh....its all in the IDS
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    Re: Airspace and Approach Plates

    You mean ERIDS?

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    Re: Airspace and Approach Plates

    ACE IDS is what we terminal peeps use. I think it stands for Atlanta computer enterprises information display system.

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