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    Tech Ops Field Service Recruiting NLT 28Sep12

    FAA is going on a technician hiring spree for the following locations in order to get electronics technician number up to 6,100 FAA ATSS total level to comply with ULP ruling:





    Info about staffing level and ULP decision:
    http://passregion2.typepad.com/files...fing-issue.pdf


    Job info and contact details are in the attachment!
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    Re: Tech Ops Field Service Recruiting NLT 28Sep12

    That was a nicely written essay by Dave Spero. When did the ULP ruling go through?

    Thanks for the info Somms

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    Re: Tech Ops Field Service Recruiting NLT 28Sep12

    Quote Originally Posted by saccity1985 View Post
    That was a nicely written essay by Dave Spero. When did the ULP ruling go through?

    Thanks for the info Somms
    The first time or second?

    First time arbitrator ruled in favor of PASS the FAA did nothing.

    When it was litigated again and another arbitrator found out the FAA had still done nothing to get the techinician numbers back up to the agreed upon 6100, he was pissed and added another stipulation that the 6100 number has to be maintained 16 months into the next CBA...guess the FAA is finally making a push to get the number up to 6100 before the next contract comes into effect!


    http://passregion2.typepad.com/files...conversion.xls

    If you do get a firm job offer from the FAA on the low side,i.e. close to the bottom of the pay band(s), it is in your best interest to try and negotiate your pay.

    If they offer you bottom of the G band to start out, try negotiating your pay for near the top of the F band instead and you will make more money in the end after 2 seperate +8% increases up to final H band (+8% everytime you move up into a new pay band) then if you took the bottom of G band and only get 1 +8% increase into the H band (journeyman level)!

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    Re: Tech Ops Field Service Recruiting NLT 28Sep12

    I wonder if I could have negotiated my salary since I was offered pay at the FV-2101-F band. I only have about a year of electronics work experience, but I qualified because my A.A.S. degree in electronics was from a FAA approved college.

    I start in Anchorage on 9/10/12.

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    Re: Tech Ops Field Service Recruiting NLT 28Sep12

    Quote Originally Posted by saccity1985 View Post
    I wonder if I could have negotiated my salary since I was offered pay at the FV-2101-F band. I only have about a year of electronics work experience, but I qualified because my A.A.S. degree in electronics was from a FAA approved college.

    I start in Anchorage on 9/10/12.
    Yes, starting salaries for newly hired ATSS are negotiable!

    Congrats on getting hired on as a federal employee in the FAA!

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    Re: Tech Ops Field Service Recruiting NLT 28Sep12

    Thanks, I'm guessing its too late to negotiate?

    Since i'm starting at the bottom of the F band, will there be more than two 8% increases before I get to the H band?

    I didn't even think about negotiating my salary, going from the college life of living on student loans barely getting by, to the starting salary in anchorage which is almost as much as an electrical engineer starts at(my 2nd major).

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    Re: Tech Ops Field Service Recruiting NLT 28Sep12

    Quote Originally Posted by saccity1985 View Post
    Since i'm starting at the bottom of the F band, will there be more than two 8% increases before I get to the H band?
    From the yet to be ratified PASS CBA:

    Offers may only be extended to candidates after approval of the starting pay. Firm job offers must be communicated in writing in accordance with established procedures in each Human Resource Management Office, and must include the prospective employee’s starting pay.

    Effective the first full pay period in October 2014, an employee in series 2101,
    856, 802, or 334 who successfully transitions through the applicable Developmental stages as established by the Agency shall be promoted to the Journey level, and shall have his/her Base Pay set at the minimum of the H band plus four and three quarter percent (4.75%), or a Base Pay increase of eight percent (8%), whichever is higher.




    Since you hired into the bottom of the F band, when you get promoted you will be moved into the bottom of the G band since this is > 8% and when you receive your final promotion to journeyman level, H band, you would get minimum of H band plus 4.75% since this is > 8%. Again, this will only occur if the proposed CBA is voted in by the union, ratified and you haven't been promoted up to H band by Oct 2014. Otherwise, you will end up in the bottom of the H band without the extra 4.75%...

    No further negotiation of pay can occur once you have accepted your firm offer letter from the FAA...

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    Re: Tech Ops Field Service Recruiting NLT 28Sep12

    Just sent resume, inquiry and questionnaire back to okc for one of these locations. I am also on 2 other facilities referral lists. I am in the military now with 10 years of expieience at this same job. just the military side of it. I instruct this job as well. Is the best salary in the F range or G? Dont understand the F+5% and F+10% payband. Anyone explain?

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    Re: Tech Ops Field Service Recruiting NLT 28Sep12

    Quote Originally Posted by matt33239 View Post
    Just sent resume, inquiry and questionnaire back to okc for one of these locations. I am also on 2 other facilities referral lists. I am in the military now with 10 years of expieience at this same job. just the military side of it. I instruct this job as well. Is the best salary in the F range or G? Dont understand the F+5% and F+10% payband. Anyone explain?
    http://passregion2.typepad.com/files...conversion.xls

    Starting Salary Range $35,000 to $63,400 plus Locality Pay as per the attached bid. That salary range is between the bottom of the F pay band ($35,000) up to the top of the G pay band ($63,400) no locality as of this year, 2012, linked above...

    For Example:

    If you were to hire in at the bottom of the G pay band at $40,900, after your promotion to journey level H pay band your base pay would be set to the minimum of the H pay band, $50,000, plus 4.75% (if our proposed union contract is voted in and ratified) for final base pay of $52,375 because this is greater than only $40,900 * 8% = $44,172.

    Instead of at the bottom of G pay band, lets say you were successful in negotiating higher up in the F pay band at $50,000 ($2500 down from the $52,500 F pay band max). After your initial promotion up to G pay band, you would get $50,000 * 8% = $54,000. When you receive your second and last promotion to journey level H pay band, $54,000 * 8% = $58,320 final base pay!

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    Fv-f +5% & 10%

    Hello everyone,

    Thank god i found this site because it has taught me alot of things already about the ATSS position that I did not know and I thank everyone who has answered other peoples threads because it has helped me alot. With that being said, I have received 6 inquiry of availability forms. (2 in Miami, 2 in Oakland and 2 in Los Angeles). 4 of them are at the FV-F+5% and the other 2 are at FV-F+10%. What exactly is the difference with the 5% and the 10%? What does it mean? Of course, I didn't even fill out the ones at 5% just because I know it is less money. Should I bother to fill out the ones at 5%, I know what i'm worth and don't want to be low-balled but I just want to know the EXACT difference so i can make an educated decision.

    Thanks

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