Application for Airmen Med Certificate question

CL4TKoff · Posted: 02-04-2009, 12:22 AM

So we're supposed to list every visit we ever made to any doctor in the past 3 yrs? From what I've read and to my understanding, but can someone give some insight?
So we have to like go to our doctor and get our med records and write down each time we came even if it was for a sinus infection for the past 3 yrs?
Thanks

mjohn47 · Posted: 02-04-2009, 10:02 AM

Put it to the best of your knowledge. If you've had to go to the doctor for anything MAJOR - get that exact, but small stuff like a sinus infection, any other small thing you had to go for.. just put "month/year". The medical examiners I've gone too over the past 6 years - including the ATC physical doc i went to in August - had no problem with me doing that.

BoomerSooner77 · Posted: 02-04-2009, 10:10 AM

Here is the guideline to the AME.

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Item 19. Visits to Health Professional Within Last 3 Years

The applicant should list all visits in the last 3 years to a physician, physician assistant, nurse practitioner, psychologist, clinical social worker, or substance abuse specialist for treatment, examination, or medical/mental evaluation. The applicant should list visits for counseling only if related to a personal substance abuse or psychiatric condition.

The applicant should give the name, date, address, and type of health professional consulted and briefly state the reason for the consultation. Multiple visits to one health professional for the same condition may be aggregated on one line.

Routine dental, eye, and FAA periodic medical examinations and consultations with an employer-sponsored employee assistance program (EAP) may be excluded unless the consultations were for the applicant's substance abuse or unless the consultations resulted in referral for psychiatric evaluation or treatment.

When an applicant does provide history in Item 19, the Examiner should review the matter with the applicant. The Examiner will record in Item 60 only that information needed to document the review and provide the basis for a certification decision. If the Examiner finds the information to be of a personal or sensitive nature with no relevancy to flying safety, it should be recorded in Item 60, as follows:

Item 19. Reviewed with applicant. History not significant or relevant to application.

If the applicant is otherwise qualified, a medical certificate may be issued by the Examiner.

FAA medical authorities, upon review of the application, will ask for further information regarding visits to health care providers only where the physical findings, report of examination, applicant disclosure, or other evidence suggests the possible presence of a disqualifying medical history or condition.

If an explanation has been given on a previous report(s) and there has been no change in the condition, the applicant may enter PREVIOUSLY REPORTED, NO CHANGE.

Of particular importance is the reporting of conditions that have developed since the applicant's last FAA medical examination. The Examiner is asked to comment on all entries, including those PREVIOUSLY REPORTED, NO CHANGE. These comments may be entered under Item 60.

It looks like issues related to Sinuses are more targeted for Pilots from reading the AME guideline...

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Exam Techniques and Criteria for Qualification
Items 25-30. Ear, Nose, and Throat - Sinus Disease

Evidence of sinus disease must be carefully evaluated by a specialist (head and neck surgeon / otolaryngologist) because of the risk of sudden and severe incapacitation from barotrauma (trauma from rapid pressure changes associated with ascent and descent).

CL4TKoff · Posted: 02-04-2009, 09:10 PM

How is the Medical history done? Is it like the FAA examiner obtains a copy of your medical records from your doctor? Or is it like they contact your doctor to ask about your history? The reason I ask is because i have went through many Primary care docs that I felt were not looking out for my best interest, and now after changing like 4-5 docs, I finally have one thats really good9for the past 3 yrs), but i dont know about my med records if it all combined or what. but my current doc knows me very well to be able to answer any questions
thanks

CL4TKoff · Posted: 02-04-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mjohn47

Put it to the best of your knowledge. If you've had to go to the doctor for anything MAJOR - get that exact, but small stuff like a sinus infection, any other small thing you had to go for.. just put "month/year". The medical examiners I've gone too over the past 6 years - including the ATC physical doc i went to in August - had no problem with me doing that.

thanks, I'll just go with that. Hopefully its good enough

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Originally Posted by BoomerSooner77

Here is the guideline to the AME.

thanks, only thing is trying to remember when i went to the doctor.

SoCal_ATCer · Posted: 02-04-2009, 10:47 PM

if youve been to the same doc for the past 3 years, seems you just need to talk to your doc if you are really interested in filling this information out appropriately.

CL4TKoff · Posted: 02-05-2009, 11:14 AM

so thats basically all they want?? they dont even want to look through your records?
Just tell them about the last 3 yrs of doctor visits and tell them about your history of any high bp, diabetes, etc.....
ok sounds easy enough.

Thanks guys, its not as hard as I had previously assumed.

freddykins919 · Posted: 02-05-2009, 10:26 PM

what if you cant remember when you went to the doctor? haha...

barty · Posted: 02-06-2009, 10:24 AM

I would not treat this as gospel, but when I filled out my first 8500 as a student pilot, the AME told me that I should list everything I remember, but if there was a doctor's appointment for something fairly routine (ie., bad head cold and OTC stuff doesn't clear you up) that you forgot about, don't sweat it. He'd never had a medical he'd done deferred by the regional flight surgeon or OKC after the fact because someone forgot to list a routine office visit. You'd have to be trying to cover something up (the office visit uncovered a blood pressure problem) to have them come back and revoke your medical.

This was about 8.5 years ago now, so the Flight Surgeon's office may have adopted a more hardline stance on that kind of stuff now. But as long as you list the big stuff (surgeries, significant diagnosis, etc.) you should be fine.

CMS3185 · Posted: 02-06-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by barty

I would not treat this as gospel, but when I filled out my first 8500 as a student pilot, the AME told me that I should list everything I remember, but if there was a doctor's appointment for something fairly routine (ie., bad head cold and OTC stuff doesn't clear you up) that you forgot about, don't sweat it. He'd never had a medical he'd done deferred by the regional flight surgeon or OKC after the fact because someone forgot to list a routine office visit. You'd have to be trying to cover something up (the office visit uncovered a blood pressure problem) to have them come back and revoke your medical.

This was about 8.5 years ago now, so the Flight Surgeon's office may have adopted a more hardline stance on that kind of stuff now. But as long as you list the big stuff (surgeries, significant diagnosis, etc.) you should be fine.

This I would say is fairly accurate. I have an FAA First Class medical, and my flight surgeon has always told me to declare visits not related to colds, sinuses, etc. I list visits like that just to be accurate, but my flight Surgeon ignores it.

Application for Airmen Med Certificate question

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