mbalunda Epic Member

This is from the new contract that is being negoiated currently. It seems as though they FAA intends to hold onto trainees longer even if they are less than succesful. Good news for those of us who are being thrown into the fire at Level 12 facilities with no ATC background.

My thought is this though...if they do this, and start sending people back to the Academy I've gotta assume attrition numbers will end up being a lot lower. I know in the past they've tried to move folks to other facilities, but I don't recall seeing that they actually sent you back to the Academy for terminal training.

I wonder if something like this will effect the number of hires in the future. Sounds like they want to avoid getting rid of people who don't succeed right away, which will probably lead to more people actually staying with the Agency.

TOWER_BOY1 Senior Member brooklyn NY

Thats good new for me cause it look like i will be ending up at a level 10 facility...i am freaking out man

Cirrus12 Epic Member So. NH

If you get sent back to the academy, how much do you get paid while there?

Whirlybird19 Chief Editor Phoenix

I wonder if this is something they are going to offer to EVERYONE who fails or on an individual basis. I mean you have to assume there are people who make it to their facility who will never have what it takes no matter what level facility they are at. But there are probably some who need to start off slow. Either way this will be something interesting to follow.

Where did you get that info from?

polo708 Epic Member tower

Im sure it will be a case by case thing... maybe off the recommendation of the Air Traffic Manager. I seriously doubt all trainees will be given another chance, some are just clearly not cut out for this job and it will show early.

mbalunda Epic Member

There is a whole list of things that have been agreed to in the new contract here: News

Pay is literally the only item left!

ColtsATC Trusted Member Indy

There is more than pay left bro.

Roddy_Piper Resident Knucklehead Vegas baby

i agree. there is like 86 articles in the current IWR and about 106 in the green book yet only about 30 of them were outlined on that link.

you still need to make it to your 1 year before your training failure. it's a definite upgrade to the current situation of training failures.

woot woot...bring on the shorts and polos.

Roddy_Piper Resident Knucklehead Vegas baby

thanks for the link mbalunda. i hadn't seen that until now.

C11indy Rookie Mustang, OK

Enroute Failures will, If they get selected at a terminal, will have to come back to OKC for tower training. If u have been thru the 50046 course, u
will more than likely be sent to a lower level Facility if selected..
The key thing is, Be a good employee , always try to do your best, and they will more than likely help u.
Don't use this as an "out" to get a different option, because they can see thru this..

Be positive and keep a good attitude and things may work out 4 u.