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vfr, NATCA, PATCO, ALPA, ATA, natcaTHREAD:Ahhhhhh Phoenix or Seattle
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ghatc wrote: [TO: ALL]
I don't get on here very often because, well, I'm not in the FAA yet. I was offered Las Vegas Tower, LAX Tower, Sky Harbor Tower in Phoenix and Seattle ARTCC under the VRA. I have ruled out Las Vegas and LAX tower completely. I am tower only and NEED to know if they train people at Sky Harbor upstairs and down. Being that it a level 11 facility, I would guess not. I am a fan of doing something new, and that is why I lean toward Seattle ARTCC. I have heard very bad things about Centers in general, but have heard very GOOD things about Seattle Center. It may be because it is a level 10 facility. I really wish someone would take 5 minutes and help me out with this very tough decision I need to make by Monday morning. Thanks in advance,

GH

Roddy_Piper wrote: [TO: ghatc]
prior to going to oakland center i was a 10 year tower only kind of guy. i was a few months from turning 31 so i had to take zoa. i absolutely hate the en route environment. there's no way to tell if you would like it or not. i work with many tower guys that hate the centers. a bunch have flat out quit and reapplied in hopes of getting a tower. i know that part of the reason is the ridiculous cost of living in the bay area and the new "nontract".

phoenix tower is NOT an up/down. P50, although now located at the base of the new tower, is not a dual rating facility. PHX tower is stand alone and one of the top 10 busiest in the nation. when i used to work in phoenix (not PHX) they were 6 or 7th busiest.

good luck in your decision. rest assured that the choices you have are both sweet choices.

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