Hope that works out for you. The reason that we are able to give VFR aircraft hard heading and altitudes is because as you mentioned we are responsible for keeping them separated from other aircraft. I suppose if you are slow (not sure what class B would be this slow other than late at night) then you could get away with suggestions. The problem is when you suggest a heading to Mr. direct and he says "roger" then turns direct to whatever heading he wants and you don’t give him an altitude and he decides to show of his new climb prop. I will just continue to give headings and altitudes till they are clear of the class B...its only a couple of miles then I don't have to baby sit them to see what direction they are actually flying and wonder what altitude they are going to level off at.

If 1500 feet is acceptable to you and you are worried about vectoring below the MVA why don’t you just issue 1500 instead of at or below

RS wrote: [TO: Archie_League]
that is what i do...tell the aircraft to maintain an altitude at least at or ABOVE the MVA...but most people...when on clearance delivery where the a/c get there VFR clearance say at or below, then mark the strip saying that they just assigned the hard altitude instead of the down arrow beside the altitude indicating they said at or below...so the local controller looks at the strip and sees the aircraft apparently was issued a hard altitude in consistent with the MVA then clears the aircraft for takeoff, issues a vector, the aircraft stops at say 1000, crashes into something...i'm sure the controllers would take some of the heat at some point.

and...would you use the phraseology once the a/c was exiting the bravo...resume appropriate VFR altitudes if you did tell the a/c to maintain 1500...so that they aircraft will know to climb to appropriate VFR altitudes to avoid other obstructions beyond the class bravo...what is the purpose exactly of that phraseology

rs