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skeeter wrote: [TO: retnavyac]
I don't know about you but when I was in the military (and no, I was never shot at), it WAS us versus them. I am happy with the side I choose to be on. Is my side perfect, no. But we are the good guys and we do the meaningful work and the other side knows it, and that's why they hate us. I guarantee if you ask an ATC supervisor what he does, he will say he is an air traffic controller instead of saying that he sits behind a desk at an air traffic facility. Don't know if you are coming to the FAA or you are in, but you will see for yourself.
Skeeter

retnavyac wrote: [TO: skeeter]
Yeah, it wasn't anything that I enjoyed and I was more than happy to be back onboard the ship. I was talking to my uncle last night (retired Fort Worth ATRCC) and he was explaining how the Sup thing goes. Sounds like a complete mess.
What happened I know this couldn't have happened over the past couple of years. Seems as though both the Union and FAA need to keep there noses off the floor and let the controllers do their job

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