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hessduke wrote[TO: zabnut]
Thanks for the quote on Duke's education costs - unfortunately, I am well aware of that as I am paying back school loans now and for the next 30 years The problem is that I really want to get a job that I am satisfied with and I am willing to make sacrifices at first regarding pay. Eventually, I do feel I should be compensated for my work and from the FAA website, it seems that average pay is pretty high. Is this not true See quote from the website below:

Air traffic controllers earn relatively high pay and have good benefits. Median annual earnings of air traffic controllers in May 2006 were $117,240. The middle 50 percent earned between $86,860 and $142,210. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $59,410, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $145,600. The average annual salary, excluding overtime earnings, for air traffic controllers in the Federal Government—which employs 90 percent of all controllers—was $122,220 in May 2006.

Are you an ATC If so, do you like it Isn't it a challenging job I want to be challenged

zabnut wrote[TO: hessduke]
You got to be joking Average NEW controllers make a lot less than those old pay scales. Check it out for yourself. I can tell you first hand you make $8 and change at OKC, then $32K a year for an indefinate period of time. Basically until you can work 2 to 4 positions alone. That can take from less than 1 year in smaller facilities to as much as 2 1/2 in others. When you fully get checked out you make anywhere from $60K to $85K a year (plus diffs) depending again, on the facility that you get into. People in my facility are making mid $70s after they checked out, They used to make $105K. If you are looking dreamily at those salaries and think that is what they are paying now you are in for a rude awakening. Why do you think the FAA is hiring from "Off the street" My point on the such an expensive degree would most certainly be worthy of a much better paying job than $32K to start and maybe up to $75K after 3 or 4 years. I would venture to say that the average Duke grad starting salary is a LOT higher than $32K

The FAA slashed the heck out of starting salaries (By 30%) and froze my pay indefinately.

I love my job and it is challenging. I HATE MY EMPLOYER and will quit as soon as I can. You want to be challenged Then the FAA is just right for you then. You will be challenged every step of the way through training, you will have your patience tested and challenged every time your boss that has 1 1/2 years CPC experience tells you why you got screwed on a bonus which rules where JUST given to you for the LAST year's rating period.

If the FAA did not have such stupid management I would stay until I was forced out, as it stands I will leave day ASAP.

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