I'm at D10 now. I was one of the handful of off the street hires that came in '08-'09. It took about 3yrs, but I certified. D10 stopped bringing in off the street, CTI's, and VRA's in early 2010 because it was taking too long for us to certify. I'm not sure if that's just a D10 thing or true for all of the busy terminal facilities. They just had an bid for 14 controllers open, i'm assuming that's the bid Deconstrukt put in for. You definitely don't have to come from a level 10 to get here. We have people here from Addison Tower and Waco who i'm sure are no higher than level 6 facilities. Right now training is running very slow. A 2-month wait for class once you get here for your first of four functions and up to a 3-month avg wait between functions. Do the math and that about a year just waiting for class. Things go a little quicker for some, but its rare. I'm not sure how many people we have in training right now, but I would guess its somewhere near 40 with about 60 cpc's.