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Re: Join the union?
Posted: 06-04-2009, 11:15 PM

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I like how that blogger wrote a near-dissertation whining about how he was banned from the NATCA BBS board.
You poor stupid individual. Its apparent you havent read anything he has written in the past. Ignorance is bliss.
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Re: Join the union?
Posted: 06-04-2009, 11:29 PM

join up. its about showing support for the guy sitting next to you. its bigger than "do i want to spend this money or not"
  #43
MikeATC
Retired FAA, NATCA Member
Nashville TN
Re: Join the union?
Posted: 06-04-2009, 11:45 PM

Being a member of NATCA is like having an insurance policy, you hope you never have to collect. If you go your entire career without needing NATCA's help to protect you against managements stupid attacks then awesome. But have a deal, or have some other problem, then watch out because most of the managers out there now will try to shove the knife in deep then twist the blade.
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Re: Join the union?
Posted: 06-05-2009, 02:45 AM

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flyers, are you a NATCA member that visits the BBS regularly, and are you familiar with the circumstances surrounding him being banned (beyond the FAA Follies post)? If not, use caution in passing judgment since there is much, much more to the story and Paul, (the author of the blog) has contributed greatly to NATCA.
I'm not passing judgment on the guy, but calling the mods "fascists" generally doesn't fly on any forum. That's all I'm saying.
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Roddy_Piper
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Re: Join the union?
Posted: 06-05-2009, 03:25 AM

calling the mods fascists is not a good idea.
  #46
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Re: Join the union?
Posted: 06-05-2009, 07:28 AM

The issue is much deeper than one guy getting banned for calling a moderator a "fascist". Since I'd probably get banned from the BBS by talking about it here, we should probably just not worry about it.
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Re: Join the union?
Posted: 06-05-2009, 07:52 AM

Mike, you at BNA? If so, tell Gonzalez his boy from Macon said hey.

I'm all for joining the union, but until the new hire pay is changed (soon?) I don't blame the newbies for waiting to join. I have not met any controller that held it against a new hire for waiting until D1 to join. Most understand that the pay is ridiculously low and it's hard enough to make ends meet w/o worrying about paying dues.

Anytime someone asked me if I was in the union or if I was going to join, all I would say is, "yeah, after I hit D1". Their response, "yeah, that makes sense", or "yeah, I don't blame you."

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