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is natca going to change its policy?
Posted: 06-12-2009, 02:58 PM about controllers losing seniority for taking temporary supervisor positions?
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Re: is natca going to change its policy?
Posted: 06-12-2009, 03:14 PM That would be a great idea! I could understand losing seniority if you switch facilities but if you stay put and do lateral moves, whether temp or permanent I think your seniority should stay! (well.. it'd have to be a different seniority measure for time in the temporary supervisory role and maybe not count FOR overall seniority while in the position..)
but losing seniority b/c you take a temporary assignment? That's just messed.. it's like they don't want you to move up... even temporarily... |
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Re: is natca going to change its policy?
Posted: 06-12-2009, 03:52 PM They DON'T want you to move up, that's the entire point of the new seniority policy. Whether anyone agrees with it or not, the policy is in place to discourage controllers from taking temporary supervisory positions. In my facility, the only people that are against the rule are people who want to be supervisors; that is probably the case at most facilities.
NATCA is forcing controllers to pick a side right now, and since FAA management imposed work rules and reduced pay and benefits on its controllers, anyone who has applied for a supervisor position picked their side. And right or wrong, the union sets the seniority policy. |
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Re: is natca going to change its policy?
Posted: 06-12-2009, 10:01 PM Guys, its' not that we don't want you to move up, we got tired of FAA management raping the controller ranks to boost their numbers and then not replacing the controllers they took.
As to will NATCA change its' policy, "Probably Not", but in the past only the time you spent outside of the bargaining unit didn't count (which it shouldn't), the loss of all senority was done to discourage individuals from accepting management positions to stem the loss of controllers. If you want the policy changed then join NATCA, become an activist, attend the next convention and raise the issue. As for loosing senority when transfering to a new facility, that also use to happen as well as some facilities having bizare senority policies that penalized those of us that worked to move up within our careers, so NATCA developed the national senority policy to put an end to many of the unfair policies. |
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Re: is natca going to change its policy?
Posted: 06-12-2009, 10:34 PM Quote:
lol... does "blood money" ring a bell to anyone? my theory only.... since natca failed fix anything in 2+ years, they were out of options and wanted to teach people a lesson for trying to advance their careers and be a supervisor. "since we cant get the faa back to the negotiating table, we will make the managers and sups (who were under orders to do what they did) the enemy. |
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Re: is natca going to change its policy?
Posted: 06-12-2009, 10:49 PM Quote:
it would seem the gap is ever widening despite our best intentions and hopes. can't we all just get along? |
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Re: is natca going to change its policy?
Posted: 06-13-2009, 12:28 PM Hopefully, in the next 10 years or so, as a lot of the pissed off people begin retiring and new people start filling positions maybe the management/controller relationship will become a bit better.
It seems like this would be a good time to start thinking about easing relations. But i think it has to start in house at facilities, and not be a nation wide public move. just my .02 cents |
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