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seaoh wrote[TO: zabnut]
Why do you think the FAA is hiring from "Off the street"

Thank you zab. I tried making this point about a week ago and a couple of hard headed individuals tried to slam me for it.

You should add in there though that us new guys have to pay for all of our training supplies (at least at my facility) and that there is a reason why the FAA made us sign some agreement at Oklahoma City that as a FAA employee we could not accept Government Assistance programs (the ones aimed at helping the poor) for a reason.

I'm not trying to cry rivers over the pay situation that I knowingly came in on. I just can't stand the FAA spouting this bull about how lucky I am to be making soooo much money. And I can't stand hearing Congressmen or citizens quoting the FAA's lies as if its fact. Its kind of like having a blind individual argue with you over the color of the sky. Whereas the sky is green, safety was never compromised. Put your blindfold on and move along.

zabnut wrote[TO: seaoh]
There are a LOT of problems with the new pay system. One being hiring people and not REALLY telling them a realistic pay potential. Straight from the FAA website they claim new hires will AVERAGE $95K after X years on the job. (I can not remember if it was 3 or 5, either way it is unrealistic at best) Our guys are making $75 after they check out. Flight Service is making more than we are in the same town

I know I personally get paid well, but I have done nothing to deserve a pay freeze until I retire either.

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