Northwest Flight 188 Pilots Blame ATC

djmodifyd Senior Member

are you not a CIC?

Roddy_Piper Resident Knucklehead Vegas baby

no, not right now.

i used to be a CIC, WS, SC, etc and i still don't know of binding responsibilities reference calling airline dispatch. i know i COULD call NWA operations but it doesn't mean i have to call them. i'd rather just ask company on one of the in-house frequencies to send a message via ACARS. i have no business calling a company dispatch. period.

still...it took 150 miles or 30 minutes before the pilots even reestablished radio contact. FARs bind them harder about actively monitoring the assigned ATC frequency (in Class A no less) than it does ATC management in a NORDO situation.

all i'm saying is they need to get their own house in order before they go next door and make a mess.

djmodifyd Senior Member

oh..i totally agree with you...i was just curious as to why you didn't get the DEN breifing..must be for CIC/WCIC/Sups only....
oh..and no..at least at my facility we are not supposed to get a hold of dispatch

Roddy_Piper Resident Knucklehead Vegas baby

could be. i'm not a CIC right now.

gopack1979 Junior Member Murfreesboro TN

Man up...I can't stand Pansy's. Pilot error, case closed. These guys were doing everything EXCEPT flying that airplane. These two are the reason I drive just about everywhere I go nowadays...DAP's

chrisskoo Newcomer Tallahassee, FL

Yeah we're getting the DEN briefings, but if we really have to call out the Marine's for ever Tom, Dick, and Harry that goes NORDO for 5 minutes we'll never do anything else. It's a daily occurrence in air traffic, no big deal most of the time.