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GolfJuliet · Posted: 12-16-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ControlPhreeqBassGeek

Well, I spoke to Randy Babbitt today (no BS) and he said that he will pick applicants personally based on a combination of their zodiac sign and how many vowels are in their first and last names (not making this up). If you are a sagittarius with two or more vowels in your last name and less than three in your first, you are guaranteed an offer. On the other hand, if you are a virgo with three vowels in your first name and two or less in your last, the FAA will never consider your application.

Just thought I'd dispel all of the rumors going around here.

Yeah my BULL SHIT detector is going off lol

luna75 · Posted: 12-16-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ControlPhreeqBassGeek

Well, I spoke to Randy Babbitt today (no BS) and he said that he will pick applicants personally based on a combination of their zodiac sign and how many vowels are in their first and last names (not making this up). If you are a sagittarius with two or more vowels in your last name and less than three in your first, you are guaranteed an offer. On the other hand, if you are a virgo with three vowels in your first name and two or less in your last, the FAA will never consider your application.

Just thought I'd dispel all of the rumors going around here.

roflmao...good one i like it...but what about the 7 in your ss #? and no more beer pong and darts???? wtf.....

GolfJuliet · Posted: 12-16-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by liandrajade

roflmao...good one i like it...but what about the 7 in your ss #? and no more beer pong and darts???? wtf.....

Just chaps your @ss don't it lol

luna75 · Posted: 12-16-2009, 06:20 PM

pretty much, lol....

jhutch306 · Posted: 12-16-2009, 10:41 PM

I'm going to take a stab at this and say that the applications are picked by a computer on "buzzwords"..words such as "advanced", "completed", "progressed", etc, etc. I'm guessing that if your application didn't have a specific set of words, the computer didn't pick it up for review and advancement in the process...several large corporations do the same thing for their hiring process, and it eliminates the need for reading thousands of resumes.

karmasteve · Posted: 12-16-2009, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ControlPhreeqBassGeek

Well, I spoke to Randy Babbitt today (no BS) and he said that he will pick applicants personally based on a combination of their zodiac sign and how many vowels are in their first and last names (not making this up). If you are a sagittarius with two or more vowels in your last name and less than three in your first, you are guaranteed an offer. On the other hand, if you are a virgo with three vowels in your first name and two or less in your last, the FAA will never consider your application.

Just thought I'd dispel all of the rumors going around here.

you just described me to a tee..... maybe this is my turn.... ill keep my fingers crossed... and about the picking applicants at random, thats what the lady said... she said there are so many apps and nothing to realy give them any reason to pick one app over the other....

ControlPhreeqBassGeek · Posted: 12-17-2009, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jhutch306

I'm going to take a stab at this and say that the applications are picked by a computer on "buzzwords"..words such as "advanced", "completed", "progressed", etc, etc. I'm guessing that if your application didn't have a specific set of words, the computer didn't pick it up for review and advancement in the process...several large corporations do the same thing for their hiring process, and it eliminates the need for reading thousands of resumes.

Yeah, I can see that. With 9,000 applicants, there's GOT to be at least some forms of automation involved in the selection...maybe geo prefs divvy it all up, then they take the best of each group based on the automated processes, and then these go to panels, and then they just pick at random.

GolfJuliet · Posted: 12-17-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jhutch306

I'm going to take a stab at this and say that the applications are picked by a computer on "buzzwords"..words such as "advanced", "completed", "progressed", etc, etc. I'm guessing that if your application didn't have a specific set of words, the computer didn't pick it up for review and advancement in the process...several large corporations do the same thing for their hiring process, and it eliminates the need for reading thousands of resumes.

Hmmm so I wonder what would happen if you put advanced, CTO, completed, CPC, experience, professional, ATC God in the comments box on your application???

NiaX · Posted: 12-18-2009, 12:31 AM

oh wow

lol

Rosstafari · Posted: 12-18-2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jhutch306

I'm going to take a stab at this and say that the applications are picked by a computer on "buzzwords"..words such as "advanced", "completed", "progressed", etc, etc. I'm guessing that if your application didn't have a specific set of words, the computer didn't pick it up for review and advancement in the process...several large corporations do the same thing for their hiring process, and it eliminates the need for reading thousands of resumes.

Nah. That's true for other places -- I've been in the hiring position before myself and have done word searches like you described to help rank applications -- but not in this case.

The reason is because very little non-controlling experience is of any use as a prediction of success as a controller. There's some benefit to holding a pilot's license, and a little for having an aviation background which can be verified (which is why they ask about both on the application, with the latter being the CTI option). But neither have proven to be an indication that an applicant will be a good controller. You have guys come into it with advanced degrees and guys coming in who've only finished high school. Success rate is about the same with both, so there's no practical reason to try to filter applications to find people who know which buzzwords to use. It wouldn't provide any benefit.

On a related note, that's why the AT-SAT was created -- it was a means to try and determine the capacity of how an applicant may perform as a controller, however imperfect the test may be. Of course, with so many people scoring well (and scores generally rising due to jerks putting study guides online and messing it up for the FAA), they've got more "well qualified" individuals than they need on their hands. Therefore, it's down to a random crapshoot.

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