"On the go"

JakeTheSnake Rookie Chicago

When you have an aircraft in a VFR pattern, and you are giving him/her instructions to be completed after the option he/she is currently cleared for (tough and go, stop and go, low approach...ect) would you say:

"On the go (insert instructions here)"

or

"After completing the option (insert instructions here)"

or...?

The .65 doesn't specify the meaning of "on the go" and many here believe it to be possibly confusing to a pilot.

Roddy_Piper Resident Knucklehead Vegas baby

why say anything to indicate "on the go"? they should know when their on the go and comply with the instruction.

"runway 30C cleared for the option, fly runway heading"

"runway 30R cleared touch and go, make right traffic"

"runway 30L cleared stop and go, west bound departure approved"

JakeTheSnake Rookie Chicago

ok example:

you have already cleared an A/C for the option, and for some reason your departure instructions needed to change.

Roddy_Piper Resident Knucklehead Vegas baby

in that case i personally would say.

"N123, after the option, fly runway heading"

CLEATCT2010 Senior Member Ohio

It varies, which is where a controller can use 1-1-1 (good judgment) of the .65. Also, some facilities may have some form of "suggested" (if not, mandatory) phraseology.

The tower I worked in while I was in CTI school had mandated phraseology:

"(Aircraft ID), Wind (direction/speed), Runway 2-8, clear tough-and-go, upon completion of touch-and-go, (instructions, such as left closed traffic approved)."

For a practice missed approach, we first had to get missed approach instructions from Pittsburgh Departure, then pass it along to the pilot in a similar fashion:

"Cessna 234, Wind 280 at 5, Runway 2-8, cleared low approach. Upon completion of your low approach, turn left heading 250, climb and maintain 3,000."

Once they stated missed approach, we would make sure they began their turn and then send them back to Departure.

I like the word "after" instead of "upon completion of" as it saves time, but it was written in our SOP so there was no deviating. But there are a few different ways of doing these sorts of things.

JakeTheSnake Rookie Chicago

thanks fellas

atcguruaf Rico Suave AZ

I would use the provisions of 1-1-1, given that this situation is not covered specifically. If you say "on the go, make left traffic" and the pilot knows what you mean, then you're good, I don't know what can be interpreted by using "on the go" other than:

(for touch and go): once you touch down and then are "on the go"

(for stop and go): once you touch down, stop, then begin departure roll and are "on the go"

(for low approach): once you cross the threshold and begin to gain altitude

Again, I don't know what else "on the go" can be construed as. I've used both (on the go / after your "touch and go"). For these situations, it's a common sense approach to me....

6 to one, 1/2 dozen to another....

mtlatc Epic Member In a bus down by the river!

I say "upon completion of your option"....why...that's what everyone did in my first tower. Not sayin it's right.

smitty2326 Rookie Buffalo, NY

The only time i have heard the phrase "on the go" is from a pilot, never from a controller

mtlatc Epic Member In a bus down by the river!

Meh..I might have said this too, sometimes when you have 10-12 in the pattern your just holding on by your ass...Doom-93 Heavy, on the go fly runway heading...