TIPH

Roddy_Piper · #21 (**permalink**) 06-27-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by archie_league

Not sure about the details but we use it at O'Hare. I don't think it’s more strict than before. The only rule I can think of off top is we can't TIPH at an intersection and full length at night at the same time on the same runway.

If they took it away (they never would), it would drastically reduce the efficiency and departure/arrival delays would sky rocket.

That's because you big league airports are exempt from the nonesense of the FAA. ORD could never have their TIPH taken away. If they did the pilots and public would be screaming bloody murder because of all the delays.

Most of us...meaning just me...is complaining because us little guy airports can't use it and it gets annoying.

**Towerboss** · #22 (**permalink**) 06-27-2008, 01:06 PM

Our airport capacity would be cut in half if we couldn't use it. Especially when the airport managers decide to close our GA runway and we have to put everyone on the AC runway.

Mclaren99 · #23 (**permalink**) 08-14-2008, 10:03 AM

We get to use TIPH @ PBI as well....for many of the reasons above. We have a single runway operation for our jet and turboprops. To be able to use it we use five mile sep on final for IFR arrival. We don't have a high speed taxiway either. Basically our configuration is extremely lame for a busy airport. If we didn't use it combined with the five mile sep no one would ever get out!

**LawnGnome** · #24 (**permalink**) 08-14-2008, 11:53 AM

I've got a buddy that works at PBI....just got back from RTF school and is probably training in the TRACON now.

KB9LEF · #25 (**permalink**) 08-14-2008, 09:33 PM

The only limitation to TIPH is at night time at an intersection... as per the 7110.65 at least

g. An aircraft may be authorized to taxi into
position and hold at an intersection between sunset
and sunrise. The procedure must be approved by the
appropriate Director, Terminal Operations (service
area office) and by the Director, Terminal Safety and
Operations Support, and must be contained in a
facility directive. The following conditions must
apply:
1. The runway must be used as a departure-only
runway.
2. Only one aircraft at a time is permitted to taxi
into position and hold on the same runway.
3. Document on FAA Form 7230-4, Daily
Record of Facility Operation, the following: “TIPH
at INT of RWY (number) and TWY (name) IN
EFFECT” when using runway as a departure-only
runway. “TIPH at INT of RWY (number) and TWY
(name) SUSPENDED” when runway is not used as
a departure-only runway.

johnatc · #26 (**permalink**) 08-27-2008, 09:51 PM

What about taxi into position and stand by for release. lol