Phraseology for Full Route Clearance

JAKE124 Newcomer Memphis TN

in this route when would you use the word "direct" post 7110.65 references too please.

kpit ckb j37 ewc jst v12 jks bgm buzzy6 kalb

that is not a real route or anything close thanks

atcguruaf Rico Suave AZ

With regards to your clearance, there is no "requirement" to issue direct. However, here is the following example from the .65:

CH 4-3-3

b. If it is necessary to modify a filed route of flight in order to achieve computer acceptance due, for example, to incorrect fix or airway identification, the contraction “FRC,” meaning “Full Route Clearance Necessary,” or “FRC/(fix),” will be added to the remarks. “FRC” or “FRC/(fix)” must always be the first item of intra-center remarks. When “FRC” or “FRC/(fix)” appears on a flight progress strip, the controller issuing the ATC clearance to the aircraft shall issue a full route clearance to the specified fix, or, if no fix is specified, for the entire route.

EXAMPLE-
“Cleared to Missoula International Airport, Chief Two Departure to Angley; direct Salina; then as filed; maintain one seven thousand.”


Because there is no set phraseology preceding the example, you are not required to use the exact phraseology from the example. If there was phraseology that preceded the example, you'd have to comply with the format of the example. But since there is not, you only have to say words that get the same message across.

CH. 1-2-5

h. The annotation EXAMPLE provides a sample of the way the prescribed phraseology associated with the preceding paragraph(s) will be used. If the preceding paragraph(s) does (do) not include specific prescribed phraseology, the EXAMPLE merely denotes suggested words and/or phrases that may be used in communications.

if you want to know when you would use it, you would use it between physical points, it would be read as the following:

"Pilot1, cleared to Albany International Airport, (issue any local departure instructions), clarksburg, j thirty seven, ellwood city, direct johnstown, victor twelve, jacks creek, direct Binghamton, direct Buzzy6 arrival...etc."

ATCinWI Senior Member Illinois

Guru, one tiny nitpick for your last sentence . . .

Don't say "direct Buzzy6 arrival"

"...direct Binghamton, Buzzy6 arrival" is correct. Buzzy6 isn't a fix, it's a whole procedure.

Other than that, it looks good to me.

Roddy_Piper Resident Knucklehead Vegas baby

PDR, PDAR, STARS, SIDs/DPs, etc are routes. so don't use the "direct" when issuing a route.

atcguruaf Rico Suave AZ

my bad. thanks for the correction. I'm not a radar guy, but couldn't a controller clear an aircraft as follows:


Pilot1, cleared direct Buzzy6 arrival.

I only ask because I thought it was okay to say direct because the arrival procedure actually begins at a physical point in space. Right? Then again, I am just a tower guy so I could be talking out of my arse, which I tend to do on a regular basis.

xxDYxx Rookie Florida (KPAM)

Most arrivals, especially to the larger airports, have multiple starting points. clearing someone direct an arrival would be very unclear and would leave you open for an accident. So "Cleared direct (fix), (arrival name) arrival."

boondr PHD without a degree North of the Equator

Like DY said they start at multiple points which may be hundreds if not more miles apart. example-ENO3 in this case Norfolk is 200-250 miles away from Martinsburg.

Using the starting point logic you could say "cleared direct Victor One" because it has a starting point

ATCinWI Senior Member Illinois

You can only clear an aircraft direct to a physical point in space . . . a VOR, a fix, an NDB, etc . . . you cannot clear an aircraft direct to an airway or direct to a procedure.

"Cleared direct Gordonsville, Smyrna 3 arrival" or "cleared direct Martinsburg, Smyrna 3 arrival"

For an airway "direct Green Bay, J38 Peck" or "direct BIPID, V191 Rhinelander".

"Direct J38 Peck" doesn't work because you aren't defining where on J38 he's supposed to go. "Fly heading 090, join J38, Peck" works though, and is sometimes the only way for a non-RNAV aircraft to join an airway or procedure.

Think about when you put a route into the FDIO. It won't allow you to put in "XYZ.V123.ARRVL4.ABC" if XYZ isn't on V123, and V123 can't be a transition onto ARRVL4.

"XYZ..ANYFX.V123.ARRVL.ARRVL4.ABC" takes care of the problem, and it is in the correct format to read to a pilot "Cleared to ABC airport via direct ANYFX, Victor 123 ARRVL, ARRVL4 arrival"

stasi2002 Junior Member

kpit ckb j37 ewc jst v12 jks bgm buzzy6 kalb

(ACID) Full route clearence available advise when ready to copy

(ACID) cleared to a-l-b as filed via P-I-T direct c-k-b direct e-w-c via j-3-7 direct j-s-t direct j-k-s via victor 1-2 direct j-k-s direct b-g-m direct buzzy 6 direct a-l-b as filed, on departure (instructions) expect (altitude) after departure, departure frequency ###.## squak ####

.65- 2-5-1A and 4-2(all)

atcguruaf Rico Suave AZ

Muchas Gracias.


In English that means: Thanks scope dopes! hehe