simulcasting over two freqs?

monty144 · Posted: 10-22-2009, 08:33 PM

Ok so the question is, can two different freqs be keyed up and broadcast?

Situation: Tower pattern is worked on one freq, A/C coming inbound are on another freq until they are established in the pattern then switched to another freq. One controller works the patter another controller works inbound traffic. The inbound traffic controller has BOTH freq on transmit and receive, Pattern controller only has pattern freq transmit receive. Oh and by the way the two people aren't in the same tower but at the same airfield. Any help would be great.

Wponcho · Posted: 10-22-2009, 08:48 PM

I can understand this, until you say the inbound controller is simulcasting on both frequencies. I see the option for override capability, but IMO there should never be 2 controllers working on the same frequency. For those facilities that have more than one local controller, they "never" talk on the same frequency. It just doesn't make sense. Maybe the inbound controller accidentally was simulcasting. Someone should ask him/her about it. No harm in that.

monty144 · Posted: 10-22-2009, 08:52 PM

It is a new "rule" now at the place i use to work at. The way it was is that in inbound controller has his freq but can override twr pattern but was NEVER simulcasting over twr freq unless needed. I'm just wondering if this new "rule" makes any sense. Their reasoning was "its easier to simulcast"

Wponcho · Posted: 10-22-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by monty144

It is a new "rule" now at the place i use to work at. The way it was is that in inbound controller has his freq but can override twr pattern but was NEVER simulcasting over twr freq unless needed. I'm just wondering if this new "rule" makes any sense. Their reasoning was "its easier to simulcast"

IMO...On a scale of 1 to 10...this makes absolutely no sense. How would the pattern controller as you put it ever get any transmissions out, if he/she is competing between the breaks from the arrival controller? Ridiculous. Sounds like someone new got there and made a rule without having actually controlled planes in a very long time, or asking the line controllers.

Roddy_Piper · Posted: 10-22-2009, 10:36 PM

is this happening at a GCA and a tower for the same airfield?

monty144 · Posted: 10-22-2009, 10:47 PM

This is happening at a Class delta tower. No radar at all

Wponcho · Posted: 10-22-2009, 10:50 PM

Then why would you need a "pattern" controller and an "arrival" controller in the tower at such a small operation?

monty144 · Posted: 10-22-2009, 10:56 PM

Its for the training pilots, when they are conducting carrier quals, That situation only happens about 11-13 days of the month. The A/C (pilots) get critiqued on every approach they make. Hence having another freq from them to talk on, while in the pattern.

Wponcho · Posted: 10-22-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by monty144

Its for the training pilots, when they are conducting carrier quals, That situation only happens about 11-13 days of the month. The A/C (pilots) get critiqued on every approach they make. Hence having another freq from them to talk on, while in the pattern.

Hmm...I don't know. I would think the pilots should be talking to a SOF while getting critiqued.