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VRA Questionnaire/Basic Qualifications
Posted: 03-06-2010, 12:43 PM

For those of you out there that made it to the VRA referral list, congrats! Would you mind helping a fellow vet by telling me how you answered the following question? (VRA Questionnaire, Basic Qualifications, #2)

2. Were you originally appointed as a civilian (FAA/DoD) Air Traffic Controller Specialist in a terminal or center prior to age 31?

I'm an active duty AF controller with 3 CTO's and extensive radar experience stateside and abroad. I've never been appointed as a civilian ATCS and I'm under 31. I answered "No."

Would this have disqualified me from making a referral list?

I question this because my CTO application made it to a referral list. I answered the questions identically for the CTO and VRA quesitonnaires.

I've read countless post of VRA, CTO and CTI applicants making referral list for the states I selected for my VRA...

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Re: VRA Questionnaire/Basic Qualifications
Posted: 03-06-2010, 04:11 PM

It shouldn't have...I made both VRA & CTO lists and I answered No on both.
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Posted: 03-06-2010, 04:18 PM

You say you are still active duty so, you probably did not make it because of the date of separation you put down on your VRA application. They will only put you on the list if you separate within a certain time frame from the date of the panel. I am not sure if anyone knows exactly how far out your DOS can be but that could be the cause.
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Re: VRA Questionnaire/Basic Qualifications
Posted: 03-06-2010, 04:30 PM

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It shouldn't have...I made both VRA & CTO lists and I answered No on both.
Well, at least I didn't over think the question...(Obviously I did or I wouldn't be asking the question!)

I just didn't want this question to be the only hang up on my application. Heard the horror stories of vets who apply and apply but answered a question incorrectly which made them ineligible.
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Re: VRA Questionnaire/Basic Qualifications
Posted: 03-06-2010, 04:41 PM

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You say you are still active duty so, you probably did not make it because of the date of separation you put down on your VRA application. They will only put you on the list if you separate within a certain time frame from the date of the panel. I am not sure if anyone knows exactly how far out your DOS can be but that could be the cause.
I thought about that too Davo. But, I used the same Date of Separation (Dec 10) on my CTO and VRA application. My CTO application got two referrals (TX/TN) and my VRA application came up blank (GA/FL).

I'm trying to make sure I didn't miss some "minor" detail on my application/questionnaire. Like everyone else, I'm just as confused on the referral/hiring process.
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Re: VRA Questionnaire/Basic Qualifications
Posted: 03-06-2010, 05:25 PM

Man I wish I got tower so I could double up on states.. you guys are pretty lucky. I was radar only so only get to put in for VRA.
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Posted: 03-06-2010, 06:40 PM

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I thought about that too Davo. But, I used the same Date of Separation (Dec 10) on my CTO and VRA application. My CTO application got two referrals (TX/TN) and my VRA application came up blank (GA/FL).

I'm trying to make sure I didn't miss some "minor" detail on my application/questionnaire. Like everyone else, I'm just as confussed on the referral/hiring process.
I had the same situation back in October. I called and asked the VRA rep and he told me that since my date of separation was more than 30 days out I was passed up and would get looked at the next time.
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Posted: 03-06-2010, 07:34 PM

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Man I wish I got tower so I could double up on states.. you guys are pretty lucky. I was radar only so only get to put in for VRA.
It's nice to have experience in both, but I had to make one too many sacrifices for it. Hopefully it'll pay off with a job. That way I can truly thank the Big Ol Blue!
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Posted: 03-06-2010, 07:38 PM

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I had the same situation back in October. I called and asked the VRA rep and he told me that since my date of separation was more than 30 days out I was passed up and would get looked at the next time.
Thanks for the warm fuzzies vzatc! Just makes me scratch my head why they passed my VRA app over and referred me on my CTO app.

Can't complain too much though...I know I've got a little bit to go and I'm happy with where I was referred too.
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Posted: 03-07-2010, 06:02 PM

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It's nice to have experience in both, but I had to make one too many sacrifices for it. Hopefully it'll pay off with a job. That way I can truly thank the Big Ol Blue!
Trust me, the benies from big ol blue come day one. My 4 yrs in the af turning into a combined income of 75g's (shitty, but housing and all that other stuff was thrown in as ya know), and a Radar cert.

Day 1 FAA:

Making 55g's @ the FAA acad as a D1 for a lvl 12.
The 20g's I got a month later.
a week and 1/2 more of vacation per yr
4 more years added onto my pension equation.
A big ass check from the VA for my gi bill back pay.

I was JUST telling my buddy how awesome my 4 yrs in the mil was in reference to how well im doing today. I'm better off in EVERY way compared to my buddies who went to college.... The only 1up they have is they probably got laid more than I did for those 4 years...

in summery, thanks uncle sam... cause I'm taking you to the cleaners for only for years of my life.

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