VRA to FAA Transition Tips

SkylinesSuck Senior Member asleep at work

No, I will not. I don't think that is the intended meaning of the advertisement, and I think while it might be possible for somebody to check off that they have 52 weeks of "experience" (all be it BS experience) and get hired, if the right person actually reads their resume, they would be turned down. As a matter of fact, didn't somebody post up a while back saying that they were told they weren't qualified for just the same instance?

Tell ya what, you call up the HR people and ask them directly, or show me some "controllers" with only ground in a tower and shipboard "experience" that have made it in, and I'll retract my statement.

Were you per chance in the Navy BTW?

ATC_MacGyver MacGyver with the bears.

shipboard experience has nothing to do with it, we can throw that out right now. we agree that the faa will never need a person to land a 757 on a boat..

bro. the application says what is needed, and what is not qualifying experience. im not saying someone qualified ground is the top notch applicant.

it doesn't say that a cto is required for the vra application. maybe you are just repeating everything you've heard to get people to stay in the airforce? you do know that people will lie to you to get you to stay in? just like you are doing to ever "level 3" whatever the f that means. you are giving out bad information. you are giving your opinion.

tiffarm Newcomer San Diego, Ca

Use EPR bullets to fill out your application
When filling out the ASAP application, take your best EPR bullets and paste them directly into the application. It?s a hard-hitting format that they like to see. Everyone who I?ve seen use that format got hired quickly. Add some of your other best qualities to the list in bullet format.


What are EPR bullets? Are they the same job descriptions that are in the 80T-114? I want to get it right the first time. If anyone could help on formatting or certain wording they're looking for it would be appreciated. My plan was to copy the job descriptions in the 80T-114.

Thanks in advance.

Radium Epic Member SoCal Tracon

Enlisted Performance Report. Af phraseology. Your annual report. I'd suggest re wording it for a corporate environment slightly, as military bullets can sound really douchy. Highlight your atc awards, checkout speed, and then any award that shows you are not a douchbag. Also word it in your favor. I'd u took 100% of ur time and a redo to pass ur 1st scope, bit afterwards rocked house, say you finished upgrade training in 50% time.. don't have.to break it down unfavorably.

tiredofwaiting Rookie

They don't ask for a copy of your CTO on the VRA app only the CTO app. The VRA app just asks for a copy of your dd214 which is new before it didn't ask for anything.

duranme Trusted Contributor San Diego (SCT)

52 weeks in the career field is all theyre asking for...

if youre fully qual'd with a rapc/pink card/cto that helps...

but i know of two individuals, one with just ground, the other with just one scope, who were discharged medically for inability to deploy (not losing flight status), who got picked up under a vra announcement.

but im sure their 10pt disabled vet status helped them out too.

mtlatc Epic Member In a bus down by the river!

There is so much old/bad info in this thread.......

SierraZulu Junior Member

Like what?

lilwhooday Newcomer

Hey guys im brand new to this site but I have been reading a lot of the threads from earlier. Let me give you my background, Im Army ATC and we are issued a Pink card upon completion of AIT or training to be an Air Traffic Controller. Now dont mistake this as an actual rating or qualifications, it just states that you are capable of doing the job of Air Traffic Control. Now our ratings consist of Fixed base ratings, and Tactical ratings. Of course your tactical is leaving your office and going to the field for a couple weeks to a month talking to some helicopters and boom you got a rating. A Fixed based rating is working at an actual airfield or heliport that is stationary or always there to support a big mission i.e. Army airfields with multiple acft like c130, f15 and your good old h60s, or overseas like Iraq and Afghanistan army airfields with a variety of traffic also but maybe a little less complicating than your stateside airfields. You can recieve a CTO at either fixed base facility depending on if the FAA actually governs the airspace. For instance my company was split last deployment and some recieved CTOs in Iraq where as I wasn't as fortunate. Even this go around in Afghanistan I am the Facility Chief for a contol tower where we are receiving ATCS or Air Traffic Control Services ratings because our airspace is not governed by the FAA, its some Europe administration. Nonetheless, my question was would I be able to be hired without a CTO, I believe so, my pink card has 4 ratings, two of them are ATCS ratings, and one of them are for 52 consecutive weeks. Its not a CTO, but the app says Pink Card and/or CTO, so thanks to your argument my question was answered. All of the timeline threads are also very helpful so I have a general idea of when to apply. Now my unanswered question is does it help to know people, Ive crossed paths with a few FAA controllers and wonder if they would be able to help push my paperwork forward?

mainec Newcomer Colorado

I was just wondering if anyone knows how accurate this original post still is as of today?