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    Enroute Study Guide

    I received a TOL for enroute and I want to start looking at what will be my life for 4 months. If anyone has a list of phraseology, maps, or anything they know that I can start reading and learning would be great. Ive been reading the AT basics lessons at work in my down time but would like to start to learn the airspace/map/common phraseology. Also a heads up because I know there will be someone that says "worry about it when you get there, they give you plenty of time" I understand but I have a ton of downtime at my current job and would kick myself in the ass down the road if I was struggling in the academy when I could have learned basic things beforehand.

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    Toss it this way too!

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    The ATC basics is the best place to start. You will need to have that down before you can concentrate on the other stuff.

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    I went through the basics it was a good refresher of CTI school being out for a 2 years. I guess I just want more lol.

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    Re: Enroute Study Guide

    I've been out since 2010....

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    Re: Enroute Study Guide

    Get your hands on the map and just start drawing it exactly as you see it, draw it from scratch, if you feel like you must start doing something beyond basics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaNiner View Post
    I received a TOL for enroute and I want to start looking at what will be my life for 4 months. If anyone has a list of phraseology, maps, or anything they know that I can start reading and learning would be great. Ive been reading the AT basics lessons at work in my down time but would like to start to learn the airspace/map/common phraseology. Also a heads up because I know there will be someone that says "worry about it when you get there, they give you plenty of time" I understand but I have a ton of downtime at my current job and would kick myself in the ass down the road if I was struggling in the academy when I could have learned basic things beforehand.
    Don't give yourself bad habits though while studying before you get there. Bad habits i mean reading something and misunderstanding it and it getting stuck in your brain that way. The people that say you have "plenty of time" when you get there are exactly right. But if you want phraseology look up the 7110 and give it a look through. Particularly sections concerning point outs, requests, manual handoffs, calling traffic when receiving point outs..also the dreaded "verify this clearance will allow compliance with local traffic pattern and terrain or obstruction avoidance.." and never forget NEVER GET CONTROL AT FLIGHT LEVEL 240

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    LoL BrewDude @ the "verify this clearance...". Soon, you guys too will be saying it like a mindless zombie. The rote memorization of the phraseology isn't particularly difficult. The map can be learned in like 2 days. The hardest part (for me, having never been exposed to enroute) was non-radar and "seeing" the aircraft's protected airspace, keeping track of the time for 10 minutes, etc. I feel like it took me an extra few days to really understand degrees divergence.

    Trying to explain what non-radar is without sitting down with a map and physically showing someone is... hard. And not something I feel I can successfully do on this forum. I'll try to find a resource. Understanding what non-radar is will put you leaps and bounds ahead of classmates and will make you much more successful.

    As I said, the map is easy. Phraseology is easy. It can all be learned in a few days and I know you don't want to hear this, but it's truly better to learn it within the context of the classroom.

    If you really want to be successful, figure out what non-radar is and figure out what a pointout is. I'll look for good resources, because explaining it on here would be challenging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewdude View Post
    and never forget NEVER GET CONTROL AT FLIGHT LEVEL 240
    Something my instructor taught me: pilot = point out, sector = safe.

    If a pilot calls, you need to do a point out.
    If a sector calls, give them a safe altitude.

    And here's another lesson for you all, something you'll be told many times over, something some of you will fight against but will ultimately need to accept if you want to pass: there are real-life rules, and then there are academy rules. And sometimes, they are contradictory. But you have to play by academy rules. The sooner you accept this fact, the better off you will be.

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    Learn the difference between northeast, northwest, southeast and southwest without thinking about it. I watched people fail because they said the wrong word.
    Practice pointout phraseology.

    "Point out, northeast of stoplight, red car". Do it while driving or whatever. It's not complete - normally, what the aircraft is doing would follow. For example:
    "Point out, two three miles northwest of Jackson Vortac, American one two three four at flight level two one zero descending to seven thousand, southeast bound".
    Hard to practice that kind of stuff without the context of why you need to be doing that point out.

    I sometimes wonder how much I could make if I just privately tutored people on this shit.

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    Thanks guys my current position allows me to deal with some clearances and I've had to relay "verify this clearance will allow..." also I too figured knowing the radials of the on the compass rose, definitely the main 8 help and being able to apply it without thinking.

    I understand the "don't learn something wrong", if I read and don't understand I'm not going to assume a right answer I'll either get clarification from a controller or move on...but I think drawing the map and learning the academy airspace would be huge, it allows more time while in the academy to learn how to control.

    Ill start digging through the .65 for more phraseology and trying to get a grip on some other things

    In the mean time if anyone has a map let me know! Thanks guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeKiloRomeo View Post
    American one two three four
    * American twelve thirty-four *

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaNiner View Post
    Thanks guys my current position allows me to deal with some clearances and I've had to relay "verify this clearance will allow..." also I too figured knowing the radials of the on the compass rose, definitely the main 8 help and being able to apply it without thinking.

    I understand the "don't learn something wrong", if I read and don't understand I'm not going to assume a right answer I'll either get clarification from a controller or move on...but I think drawing the map and learning the academy airspace would be huge, it allows more time while in the academy to learn how to control.

    Ill start digging through the .65 for more phraseology and trying to get a grip on some other things

    In the mean time if anyone has a map let me know! Thanks guys
    Google academy center airspace map and hit images. Second one looks pretty familiar

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryTheAce View Post
    * American twelve thirty-four *
    Haha yes, you are absolutely right.

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    The reason no one is posting a map or anything is because most people who went through recently are probably not CPC yet. The FAA rescinded an offer letter for someone who posted BioQ questions online. And while maybe you think giving out academy materials isn't as bad, I can assure you the FAA has a very different mindset. No one wants to lose their job. I have my academy materials, but I won't post or share them, even via PM.
    There's a reason everyone says to hold off studying. The academy changes things too - they adjusted the map during my time there. You can get maps from the people ahead of you, as well as other things. I know you have down time, but it's honestly better to learn in the context of the classroom. Enjoy your down time. The academy is tough and you'll most likely be moving. Get your stuff in order at home. Take a vacation. Life changes a lot after the academy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeKiloRomeo View Post
    Haha yes, you are absolutely right.
    Lol I can just see the academy evaluator marking an A-1 for saying "one two three four" instead of "twelve thirty-four" or like you said "Southeast" instead of "Southwest"... BOOM A-1, 16pts down the drain!! Man I don't miss the academy. Referencing military airspace to sec65 when the military airspace is only in their gotdamn airspace and not yours!

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    Very helpful, thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeKiloRomeo View Post
    Learn the difference between northeast, northwest, southeast and southwest without thinking about it. I watched people fail because they said the wrong word.
    Practice pointout phraseology.

    "Point out, northeast of stoplight, red car". Do it while driving or whatever. It's not complete - normally, what the aircraft is doing would follow. For example:
    "Point out, two three miles northwest of Jackson Vortac, American one two three four at flight level two one zero descending to seven thousand, southeast bound".
    Hard to practice that kind of stuff without the context of why you need to be doing that point out.

    I sometimes wonder how much I could make if I just privately tutored people on this shit.

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