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    7110.65 question

    Hey guys!

    Im a CTI student. Hopefully graduating next may if schedule permits. After going to the Denver Center for the second time to plug in with a buddy whos dad is a controller I got a copy of the 7110.65. What a beautiful sight! Something that would actually help me in my career! lol. So, end of story.

    My question is while your in OKC do we go over the entire 7110.65? Or some? If some, which parts?

    Its exciting to have some text that actually is exactly what i need to be an Air Traffic Controller. Rather than going over all the basic crapt that seems to get us no where.

    Anyways, thanks guys for any help!
    Last edited by blakeh; 04-04-2009 at 04:11 PM. Reason: took it out. dont need to be crucified. lol

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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    while the .65 is our bible it is also very much up to interpretation. The academy does a good job of going through it with the most recent information and updates. Good luck reading the entire thing, it is pretty dry. While yes it does have info very pertinent to ATC it reads like a legalese dictionary type document.
    I've seen this work before.

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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    Thats kinda like reading the FAR/AIM and expecting it to teach you to fly...
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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    jesus christ! you will end up reading it anyway mostly at school. I have never seen anybody whom wanted the read the .65. During my tour and ATC school I used flash cards and other cheats to learn the thing for testing, THE only time we ever read the thing was in class - and to prove somebody wrong.
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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    if you end up going to a center you will NOT need to know the entire book. in fact, no matter which type facility you go to, you will NOT need to know the entire book

    Center - chapters 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 and maybe a few others, but mostly those.
    Tower - chapters 1, 2, 3, 4, 7 and maybe a few others.
    Approach - chapters 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 and maybe a few others.

    i don't have one sitting in front of me but you can probably browse chapter 10, if that's the one about special flights, emergencies, and such. you'll want to be familiar with the appendix's. appendix D teaches you how to do a position relief briefing. you'll do 2 briefings for every time you plug in.

    there are some that are completely useless. like the section that talks about Sea-Lane Operations. who even works a Sea-Lane/Water Runway??

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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    Thanks alot Roddy! Ill look into those chapters.

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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    If you cant sleep at night, the 7110.65 will help you with that.

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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    Quote Originally Posted by haystack510 View Post
    If you cant sleep at night, the 7110.65 will help you with that.
    lmao...or if u can't reach something from the top shelf, it makes a good step.

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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    i actually put it under my coffee table and wouldnt you know...the table doesnt rock any more. Tks ATC!

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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    I like to use it to keep the door propped open. It's more cost-effective that way. Although, I must admit, when we're bored, we usually pick out something of the book and have a debate about it, just for the sake of arguing... like if towers can say point out or not.... blah blah blah... But rarely do we ever come to a conclusion other than being more confused than when we first started the debate.

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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roddy_Piper View Post
    there are some that are completely useless. like the section that talks about Sea-Lane Operations. who even works a Sea-Lane/Water Runway??

    heh Fairbanks, AK has a water runway.

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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    Quote Originally Posted by opie View Post
    heh Fairbanks, AK has a water runway.
    just cuz the snow melts and floods the airport, doesn't make it a water runway...

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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    Quote Originally Posted by atcguruaf View Post
    Although, I must admit, when we're bored, we usually pick out something of the book and have a debate about it, just for the sake of arguing...
    how about if your legally able to do simulatneous operations to taxiway charlie and the outside runway OR taxiway alpha and the inside runway. does anyone even know how far apart they are? reference table 3-8-1. of course i never said anything cuz i liked being able to use the taxiway with those annoying helos.

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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roddy_Piper View Post
    how about if your legally able to do simulatneous operations to taxiway charlie and the outside runway OR taxiway alpha and the inside runway. does anyone even know how far apart they are? reference table 3-8-1. of course i never said anything cuz i liked being able to use the taxiway with those annoying helos.
    Yeah, we just discuss it amongst ourselves then when anyone comes up say "SHHHH".... and that's about it... Same thing with operations between the inside and outside runway... 1K between them... helos OK? WTF? where's that rule? and we did figure out the separation between the taxiways and runways.... it's not satisfying.

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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roddy_Piper View Post
    there are some that are completely useless. like the section that talks about Sea-Lane Operations. who even works a Sea-Lane/Water Runway??
    Lake Hood in Anchorage. I think they are the busiest in the world.

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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glassjaw View Post
    Lake Hood in Anchorage. I think they are the busiest in the world.
    okay, i stand corrected. figure someone would find a sea-lane runway. needless to say only about .01% of all controllers will even see such a thing.

    so there's a tower that controls Lake Hood and it's sea-lanes? that awesome. i always just figured WTF whenever i read the water runway chapter. i just assumed it was a waste of paper. lol.

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    Re: 7110.65 question

    I knew a guy in the navy who could quote the 7110 verbatim, I asked how he could do it and he told me that he just keeps it in the bathroom and reads it at least twice a day.

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    Re: 7110.65 question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roddy_Piper View Post
    there are some that are completely useless. like the section that talks about Sea-Lane Operations. who even works a Sea-Lane/Water Runway??
    DWH here in texas has one
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    Re: 7110.65 question

    Quote Originally Posted by Pants81 View Post
    I knew a guy in the navy who could quote the 7110 verbatim, I asked how he could do it and he told me that he just keeps it in the bathroom and reads it at least twice a day.
    virgin....
    join the union or else!!!

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    Re: 7110.65 question

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