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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    Looking to find two cpc's to swap enroute to enroute with. My wife and I are both cpc at ZOB. Looking to get to ZJX or ZMA. Anyone at those facilities looking to get to ZOB? Thanks.
    Last edited by Cessnaman; 12-09-2013 at 04:48 PM. Reason: Added info.

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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    IAH CPC to A90. That is Houston Bush Intercontinental ATCT for Boston Consolidated Tracon. Yes that's a level 12 tower for an 11 Tracon.

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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    Is the 3 levels between each other rule written in stone or has anyone ever swapped from say a lvl 8 to a lvl 12?

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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    Quote Originally Posted by VW2007 View Post
    Is the 3 levels between each other rule written in stone or has anyone ever swapped from say a lvl 8 to a lvl 12?
    Its a hard rule... in writing, agreed upon between the FAA and NATCA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZJXATCer View Post
    Where do you get the information that you are about to be upgraded to a level 12? I doubt very seriously the government will be doing any upgrading anytime soon with our current financial state. Not to mention traffic count isn't what it used to be.
    ZMA's level 12 was official about a year and a half ago. MIA, ZMA and FLL traffic count is rapidly climbing over the last few years and only getting higher. Once the Port of Miami and the Port of Ft Lauderdale (Port Everglades) are finished with current upgrades and tunnels we will be hit even harder with cargo traffic. Then when the Panama Canal is finished with it's widening project in a few years we will be the main port for a scary amount of cargo to the US through the canal. One of the few facilities on the way up. Lots of international flights... we're number #1 in the US for international cargo and passenger count now.

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    Currently at BNA level 9 looking to get to LIT level 8. PLEASE me if interested....... that's supposed to say PM me. Auto correct for me.

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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    Quote Originally Posted by MIAvectors View Post
    Its a hard rule... in writing, agreed upon between the FAA and NATCA.
    Is there a reason for the 3 levels in between rule?

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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    Current: ZME (Memphis Center)
    Desired: DAB, JAX, ZJX

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    I think the three level rule has to do with training and adjustment complexities and pay. At least that's what I was told in a letter from the John Carr days.

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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    Quote Originally Posted by VW2007 View Post
    Is there a reason for the 3 levels in between rule?
    A swap is supposed to be a somewhat even trade where each facility is expecting a fairly timely certification from their exchange. If level 4's swapped with 12's then that level 4 CPC would likely take as long as a new hire to certify. It's not fair to each facility I suppose. A CPC from a 10 or 11 would, in most cases, certify in a decent amount of time

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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    Current Facility: KPDK - DeKalb-Peachtree ATCT in Atlanta, GA (Level 7)
    Desired Facilities: KDAL, KTPA, KAPA, KSAT, KRDU, ZDV

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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    I just found out today I am being redirected from ZNY to ZDV. I am looking to see if anyone still with a TOL for ZNY is willing to swap and go to ZDV?

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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    NATCA now runs a swap board at:

    http://www.natcamembership.org/members/job-swap.aspx? (or NATCA | Login )


    I dont think it is very efficient, especially because many don't know of it, it's difficult to find and you must be a NATCA member to login and see it. I wish StuckMic still ran the swap map. Anyhow, its likely the best tool (for NATCA) members to use.

    I am looking to swap from ZAU to ZJX.

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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    How does the swap work between those who have TOL. Is is possible to switch between the two that may have an interest in changing locations. Would like to possibly look at making a swap from ZBW (Boston Center) to a center/tower in southeast or Denver center

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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    Quote Originally Posted by JulietMikeCharlie View Post
    I just found out today I am being redirected from ZNY to ZDV. I am looking to see if anyone still with a TOL for ZNY is willing to swap and go to ZDV?
    JulietMikeCharlie, I do not have ZNY but do have TOL for ZBW, Boston Center which is close to NY. If you have interest in swap let me know

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    Quote Originally Posted by macjac58 View Post
    JulietMikeCharlie, I do not have ZNY but do have TOL for ZBW, Boston Center which is close to NY. If you have interest in swap let me know
    If you can find someone that has ZNY but wants ZBW maybe we can work out a three way swap.

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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    Current Facility: KSAT
    Desired Facilities: KSLC, KTPA, F11

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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    Article 42, Section 9, "Mutual reassignment transfer requests may be submitted to the same ATC grade level facility, higher or lower grade level facility, for employees who have a minimum of one (1) year as a certified controller at his/her facility, but no more than three (3) ATC levels above the employee’s current ATC facility level, unless the employee had been previously certified at the higher ATC level."

    So this is negotiable if both ATM's and NATCA reps/members agreed upon say a level 8 and 12 swap?
    Last edited by flyinrico; 02-14-2014 at 06:58 PM.

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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    I am at SEE, level 7 VFR tower in San Diego, looking for a swap to IAD, or DCA.
    Small pay cut of 4k a year may occur as level 10 is slightly above the 7 payband, but SEE has a small CIP (don't know exact percentage) and you'd still be making great money in great weather. You'd be making more money than anyone else at SEE I can guarantee.

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    Re: Facility Swap Request

    If anyone is interested in a swap to KPIT shoot me a message. I'm not sure where I want to go from here but I figured I'd see what was out there, if anything.

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