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    Re: Chicago Center - ZAU

    Curious what staffing is like and how the facility is, gonna come take a tour later this year and did not know if any body had any details about the facility.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by STLATCER View Post
    Curious what staffing is like and how the facility is, gonna come take a tour later this year and did not know if any body had any details about the facility.

    Thanks
    Staffing is pretty light in several areas, with more retirements to come. This has been the case for awhile now and it hasn't had any noticeable effect on hiring. We've had the same trainees for awhile now in my area. This is how stupid it has gotten...there are two ZAU guys in OKC now who were supposed to come to my area if they graduate, however the higher ups decided that we're so short in my area that we don't have the ability to train anyone so they are going to another area lol

    So somehow we'll magically get more people by not training anyone because we don't have the resources to train them in the area
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbalunda View Post
    Staffing is pretty light in several areas, with more retirements to come. This has been the case for awhile now and it hasn't had any noticeable effect on hiring. We've had the same trainees for awhile now in my area. This is how stupid it has gotten...there are two ZAU guys in OKC now who were supposed to come to my area if they graduate, however the higher ups decided that we're so short in my area that we don't have the ability to train anyone so they are going to another area lol

    So somehow we'll magically get more people by not training anyone because we don't have the resources to train them in the area


    Thanks for the info, I'm a CPC at a Tracon, and hope to get their in the near future...

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    Quote Originally Posted by STLATCER View Post
    Thanks for the info, I'm a CPC at a Tracon, and hope to get their in the near future...
    Unfortunately there is a freeze on everything at the center, including ERRs. But once that comes to an end they'd probably be happy to pick you up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbalunda View Post
    Staffing is pretty light in several areas, with more retirements to come. This has been the case for awhile now and it hasn't had any noticeable effect on hiring. We've had the same trainees for awhile now in my area. This is how stupid it has gotten...there are two ZAU guys in OKC now who were supposed to come to my area if they graduate, however the higher ups decided that we're so short in my area that we don't have the ability to train anyone so they are going to another area lol

    So somehow we'll magically get more people by not training anyone because we don't have the resources to train them in the area
    I'm just curious, do some areas handle more traffic than others per year? Does the center try to keep those fully staffed first or do they assign people evenly?

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    Re: Chicago Center - ZAU

    I have a TOL for ZAU and am curious about the wash-out rate, staffing, cost of living in area etc.??

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    Quote Originally Posted by dub11 View Post
    I have a TOL for ZAU and am curious about the wash-out rate, staffing, cost of living in area etc.??
    They barely wash anyone out. Staffing is so poor we can't afford to lose anyone. Cost of living is pretty good. The Illinois housing market took a HUGE hit when everything crashed. We just bought a nice ass house for about 57% of the cost when it was new in 2004.

    Some of the surrounding areas are still very expensive, but there's plenty of reasonable housing to be had at a good price at this time. Rent is fairly high though. Even a two bedroom apartment anywhere in the area is going to run close to $1k unless it's in the ghetto, and there's plenty of ghetto around.
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    Just moved out of a crappier 2bdr apt and that was $1600... f'n MD..

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    yeah here in warrenton i live in a ghetto blaster 1 bedroom the size of a closet and thats 1 grand. nice

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    Re: Chicago Center - ZAU

    Does anyone know about how many TOL holders ZAU will be taking this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dub11 View Post
    Does anyone know about how many TOL holders ZAU will be taking this year?
    The 0-5 number hasn't changed.
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    Re: Chicago Center - ZAU

    At this rate I'm looking at FY 2016....maybe

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    Re: Chicago Center - ZAU

    Quote Originally Posted by unable View Post
    or seriously a redirect to Oakland Center
    People that are getting redirects to Oakland, did they have California as a state preference? I thought you had to because it was a legal matter?

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    Re: Chicago Center - ZAU

    just wondering where you guys found this info? so we basically are on the backend of the list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dub11 View Post
    just wondering where you guys found this info? so we basically are on the backend of the list?
    I work there and those are the numbers the FAA gave our local NATCA leadership as the amount of people they can expect to be starting this year.
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    Re: Chicago Center - ZAU

    oh crap, starting this year as in 2013 or 2014?

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    Re: Chicago Center - ZAU

    FY 2014, which started last month.
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    Re: Chicago Center - ZAU

    Quote Originally Posted by mbalunda View Post
    FY 2014, which started last month.
    How are the staffing levels there? Just trying to get a feel for what they are doing.... I thought they would be sending quite a few through for each center but maybe not.

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    Re: Chicago Center - ZAU

    Dub11, basically the only way we will go this FY is A) they up the number of new hires. B) people ahead of us get redirects, creating spots for us. C) clearances were not renewed or D) people turn the offer down.

    So really what we need is luck to get an offer this year....very discouraging

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    Re: Chicago Center - ZAU

    I made a few calls to some controllers over there to ask what they have heard...ill keep you updated

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