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    Flight Service Alaska

    Hello, I recently washed out of the tower at a level 7 up-down. The NEST decided to retain me at a Flight Service facility. Juneau, Fairbanks, and Kenai are the 3 facilities on my list. Note that these facilities are FAA and not Lockheed Martin.

    I have no idea what to expect. Besides the job description and daily duties, what are the major similarities and differences between FSS and ATC? Is it a viable temporary option if I want to try to get back into ATC? What is the payscale?

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    Flight service pay scale is in the back of the slate book.

    Go to Kenai. Juneau is too expensive to live and Fairbanks is too cold.

    I know a few controllers that have washed out and gone to flight service for a few years then got a second chance at controlling. But that was years ago, not sure if it works that way anymore.

    It'll be a good home while you figure out your next step and an ok living if you decide to stay put.


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    Nice! Thanks for the advice!

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    Re: Flight Service Alaska

    Quote Originally Posted by WooPig View Post
    Nice! Thanks for the advice!
    Any updates? Have you gotten to a facility yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebork2 View Post
    Flight service pay scale is in the back of the slate book.

    Go to Kenai. Juneau is too expensive to live and Fairbanks is too cold.

    I know a few controllers that have washed out and gone to flight service for a few years then got a second chance at controlling. But that was years ago, not sure if it works that way anymore.

    It'll be a good home while you figure out your next step and an ok living if you decide to stay put.
    Believe it or not... but Kenai's winters are worse than Fairbanks. Fairbanks gets cold (-50) but Kenai is right behind (at -35). The difference being, those temperatures are rare... and to top it off, Kenai is worse off at -35 than Fairbanks is at -50 because Kenai is humid and very windy. When Fairbanks gets wind, it pushes the temperatures up to 12-25 (above zero). -50 with the air still is easy to dress warm against, -35 with a 20knot wind is impossible to dress warm for... 3 layers of jackets and you'll still feel the wind stabbing you with knives.

    If you are married, do *NOT* pick Kenai. Your spouse will have a hard time finding work in Kenai. Kenai's population is below 8,000 people and the place is a ghost town outside of the summer tourist season. And in some ways, Kenai is actually more expensive than Fairbanks.

    I live in Fairbanks and spent an entire winter in Kenai. I will take Fairbanks' winter every year over another in Kenai.

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    Re: Flight Service Alaska

    Quote Originally Posted by MissChief View Post
    Any updates? Have you gotten to a facility yet?
    Yes, I made it to Kenai in July. Had to go through Flight Service Academy which was August thru December. Will be fully certified within the next month or so.

    Kenai was a great choice. Fairbanks would probably be a good alternative though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADub View Post
    Believe it or not... but Kenai's winters are worse than Fairbanks. Fairbanks gets cold (-50) but Kenai is right behind (at -35). The difference being, those temperatures are rare... and to top it off, Kenai is worse off at -35 than Fairbanks is at -50 because Kenai is humid and very windy. When Fairbanks gets wind, it pushes the temperatures up to 12-25 (above zero). -50 with the air still is easy to dress warm against, -35 with a 20knot wind is impossible to dress warm for... 3 layers of jackets and you'll still feel the wind stabbing you with knives.

    If you are married, do *NOT* pick Kenai. Your spouse will have a hard time finding work in Kenai. Kenai's population is below 8,000 people and the place is a ghost town outside of the summer tourist season. And in some ways, Kenai is actually more expensive than Fairbanks.

    I live in Fairbanks and spent an entire winter in Kenai. I will take Fairbanks' winter every year over another in Kenai.
    Not exactly accurate. I haven't seen lower than -20 this winter. The winter here in Kenai is totally tolerable. I'm from the South and have never experienced cold weather. I haven't had any issues here thus far.

    Soldotna is right down the road from Kenai. The combination of the two towns is really nice. There are several specialists here who have had the opportunity to leave but love the area too much, but admittedly it's not for everyone.

    Pros and cons to both Kenai and Fairbanks.

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    So whats the word on Alaska FSS employees being eligible to ERR into a control position? Last I heard, FSS was not eligible for it, but they were "in discussions" to gain that ability, however the rumor was that the discussions weren't going anywhere and it seemed like a pipe dream. Any updated on that?

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    Re: Flight Service Alaska

    If anyone still reads this...I got questions. I've been trying to get into ATC, no such luck yet, but I applied to the ots Alaska FSS bid over a year ago, and got an offer a few days ago. I accepted. Duty station is Juneau. I know, Expensive, but that's what they offered me.
    I'm not in the position to be turning my nose up at a federal job. And I KIND OF like Alaska, ...i went to school in Anchorage. Currently an RPO at a center.

    My questions:
    How much did you get in per diem at the academy in kenai?

    Where did you live in kenai? What did you pay? I imagine it could be hard to find a decent place offering a 4 month lease.

    Realistically, How long after arriving at Juneau can I cert? The HR lady that I talked to was hesitant to even give me ball park figures.

    Juneau... If any of you know a good place in Juneau or someone that may be wanting someone to rent a room to a desperate and rather good looking young man lol, I would appreciate a heads up.

    HR said they had a class in February-ish and one in June-ish. I'm writing this in November 2018...hoping to get in the February class, but I have to go through ALL the clearance/medical/mmpi shit. So I doubt that will happen, but after sending back the TOL, I'm getting some clearance paperwork and they've already scheduled me for drug testing in 3 days. So maybe this will move faster than ATC, especially since faa hasn't started any medicals for this upcomng batch of ots controllers yet.

    If there's anything else you think I should know, I am ALL EARS! I will take all the help I can get.
    Thanks.

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    Supposedly, new information will be presented this month in regards to ERRs for FSS employees. I have been told it is "good news" from a NATCA representative. However, I am always cautiously optimistic, so we shall see what they mean by "good news".

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