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    Re: Busiest Facility

    Quote Originally Posted by Tko View Post
    If you know the rules and have a good head on your shoulders you have what it takes.
    with all due respect, i don't think this is all it takes. it takes a lot more than just knowing the books and having a good head on your shoulders.

    in my air force days there was one particular guy that knew the books and was very liked. the problem was whenever he plugged in he wasn't that good. after a couple extensions he was eventually washed out. proof positive that you need to be able to separate planes. the rules and being liked is nice, but not the only needed attributes.

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    Agreed Roddy... I've seen incredibly book smart people washout and I've seen lazyass drunks who never study sling planes with the best of them.

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    As I am fond of saying "Knowledge without application is useless."
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    i think he meant by saying good head on your shoulders : not sucking in position. If you are DECENT, and know all the books... you get by fine.

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    Re: Busiest Facility

    well shoot...if u don't suck in position, u don't need to know the books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roddy_Piper View Post
    well shoot...if u don't suck in position, u don't need to know the books.
    Meh..books=rules still gotta be safe...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSgt Young View Post
    I have the facility numbers for all the Marine Air Stations on the west coast. If you really want to know which one was the busiest let me know
    I'd be interested in knowing the numbers for the West Coast Air Stations.

    NFG, NYL, NKX...

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    NYL is the busiest followed by NFG with NKX bringing up the rear.

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    i saw the traffic count numbers for air force towers about 6 months ago, this didnt have bases in iraq on it. topping the list was little rock, then randolph east/west, think they were 2 and 3, dont know which order though, then nellis. dont remember the exact numbers because it has been a while since i looked at it.

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    Re: Busiest Facility

    Quote Originally Posted by mikecoyne34 View Post
    i saw the traffic count numbers for air force towers about 6 months ago, this didnt have bases in iraq on it. topping the list was little rock, then randolph east/west, think they were 2 and 3, dont know which order though, then nellis. dont remember the exact numbers because it has been a while since i looked at it.
    isn't little rock a c130 base? How in the world does a c130 base top the AF numbers charts. Doesn't make sense, usually AETC bases are at the top due to the mass numbers of trainee pilots beating the pattern.

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    Air Force traffic count is a farce. I watched controllers count a touch and go twice if the student pilot bounced on the RY. Ohh...and a flight of 4 out Nellis on a Red Flag mission counting as 100 ops.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by atcbrownie View Post
    isn't little rock a c130 base? How in the world does a c130 base top the AF numbers charts. Doesn't make sense, usually AETC bases are at the top due to the mass numbers of trainee pilots beating the pattern.

    it is a 130 base. there's just a lot of them and they're always flying. little rock has AETC, AMC and ANG squadrons. the flying is prodominatly AETC though.
    im sure the numbers from all bases are fudged a little bit. not as accurate as the faa's system.

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    Re: Busiest Facility

    forgot to mention... this is how it was explained to me, places like columbus and shepherd, your bases with the 38s and 37s usually have 2+ runways. only one runway is worked by the tower, the others are worked by an unstructor pilot just giving WX and the occasional traffic call. all the tower does is clear them for their initial takeoff and final landning and they work all emergencies. i would imagine those towers would have some huge numbers, traffic count wise, if the tower worked everything.
    anyone who has been to these bases correct me if im wrong. im only saying what ive heard.

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    I was at Sheppard, the numbers are a farce to say the least...yes we worked hard, just not as hard as the number say.
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    but when all bases count numbers like that, then its still an acurate rating as a whole. I did my part and didnt write 50% of my strips!

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    Re: Busiest Facility

    Traffic count is a joke. Its all people just clicking whatever they feel like it. No planes around? Go click some more!!!

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    Re: Busiest Facility

    most FAA facilities have their traffic count done automatically from the STARS

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    Re: Busiest Facility

    Facsfac Vacapes has the largest amount of airspace of all military facilities, but there's days when its slow as balls, seriously 2 aircraft an hour in each sector, all the way up to a fly off in all sectors, depending on where the ships are at and what the RKTX, MSLX, GUNX, and all the other "X's" not to mention all the notams and other special missions goin on at the same time. There's been 85 aircraft in my airspace, in/out/transit within 45 minutes. Not denoting any other facilities, but i'd say thats a good amount of work... fun too...

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    Re: Busiest Facility

    Nas Meridean has the highest traffic count from last year. 187k and change vfr tower ops all year long

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    Quote Originally Posted by NizmoSR20 View Post
    Facsfac Vacapes has the largest amount of airspace of all military facilities, but there's days when its slow as balls, seriously 2 aircraft an hour in each sector, all the way up to a fly off in all sectors, depending on where the ships are at and what the RKTX, MSLX, GUNX, and all the other "X's" not to mention all the notams and other special missions goin on at the same time. There's been 85 aircraft in my airspace, in/out/transit within 45 minutes. Not denoting any other facilities, but i'd say thats a good amount of work... fun too...
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