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    what is the busiest military faclity in the Air Force? Marine Corps? Navy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramstar13 View Post
    what is the busiest military faclity in the Air Force? Marine Corps? Navy?
    i've never seen an official number count for military bases. i doubt you'd find an official number count anywhere, unless you call every base and ask what their count was for the year.

    post it up if you find it anywhere.

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    Balad AB, Iraq. 2nd busiest airport in the world now behind Heathrow. Lots of controllers never get fully checked out or make past anything besides assist.

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    i thought ATL claims to be busier than Heathrow? i've never found an official count to include either military or foreign airports. i guess you could use wikipedia numbers, but you gotta take some wiki facts with a grain of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramstar13 View Post
    what is the busiest military faclity in the Air Force? Marine Corps? Navy?
    Nellis is the largest and most active US AFB, from what I've read and heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammolite View Post
    Nellis is the largest and most active US AFB, from what I've read and heard.
    stateside yes... but not busier or as complex as balad Iraq. I have seen at least 2 people from nellis not get checked out at balad and numerous from luke not get get fully checked out either. When I was at balad the cerap did over 90k ops per month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atcbrownie View Post
    stateside yes... but not busier or as complex as balad Iraq. I have seen at least 2 people from nellis not get checked out at balad and numerous from luke not get get fully checked out either. When I was at balad the cerap did over 90k ops per month.
    I meant within the US. I can imagine Balad being an insane place to get checked out at.

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    Atlanta is the busiest airport, by far. ATL beat out Heathrow by 23 million passengers and Chicago by about 13 million. Check out the Airports Council International for the actual numbers. I have heard Balad is very busy though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerpuke View Post
    Atlanta is the busiest airport, by far. ATL beat out Heathrow by 23 million operations and Chicago by about 13 million. Check out the Airports Council International for the actual numbers. I am certain there are no military facilities that remotely come close to 90 million ops per year. I have heard Balad is very busy though!
    That is passenger ops not aircraft ops. Of course a military base would not compete with passenger ops (I am not saying that balad is busier than ATL). An airplane with 200 pax and a C17 with 20 pax require the same amount of controlling.

    The most difficult thing about balad is the mixture of civilian aircraft and military aircraft and the constant changing of the tactical airspace.

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    ATL is the busiest in the world by far. Nellis is a cake facility... busy yes, but canned to all hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColtsATC View Post
    Balad AB, Iraq. 2nd busiest airport in the world now behind Heathrow. Lots of controllers never get fully checked out or make past anything besides assist.
    Really? Where you getting this from?

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    By a recent email I received here in Kandahar with last years AF base traffic counts (contract towers here too), Balad tower did approximately 242,000 ops last year. CERAP would have different numbers. We here in Kandahar did approximately 101,000 but are on pace for about 150-165,000 this year (tower ops).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DM56 View Post
    By a recent email I received here in Kandahar with last years AF base traffic counts (contract towers here too), Balad tower did approximately 242,000 ops last year. CERAP would have different numbers. We here in Kandahar did approximately 101,000 but are on pace for about 150-165,000 this year (tower ops).
    that's not busiest in the nation (or world) type numbers. there's contract towers in the US that are busier than that. ATL and ORD did almost 1,000,000 ops last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roddy_Piper View Post
    that's not busiest in the nation (or world) type numbers. there's contract towers in the US that are busier than that. ATL and ORD did almost 1,000,000 ops last year.
    Dude, that's 2 ops a minute, every minute, 24/7/365. Not possible. You can't put airplanes that close together year round

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravo zulu View Post
    Nellis is a cake facility... busy yes, but canned to all hell.
    I've heard the same thing about Nellis, and also that their traffic count is so high cause they count 1 for every MOA they enter/exit/cross through, which realisticly is what you should do but no one does here cause they are lazy, but 1 a/c will rack up 10-15 ops just from different MOA work. Once again just what I've heard.
    "The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways, the point is to change it." - Karl Marx

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColtsATC View Post
    Dude, that's 2 ops a minute, every minute, 24/7/365. Not possible. You can't put airplanes that close together year round
    Crazy, isn't it? Atlanta Center worked @ 3.4 million aircraft last year with roughly 300 million passengers flying through our airspace. That's everything in and out of Birmingham, Atlanta, Charlotte, and everything over the top. ATL has 5 runways and runs either triple arrivals or triple departures all day. The two arrival sectors on the north side are the busiest ATC sectors in the world (roughly 9,000 - 12,000 ops per day each).

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    Balad is a center though. ATL and Heathrow are just single airport ops. If you compare almost any stateside center, balad doesnt compete.

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    re: Busiest Facility

    Quote Originally Posted by DM56 View Post
    By a recent email I received here in Kandahar with last years AF base traffic counts (contract towers here too), Balad tower did approximately 242,000 ops last year. CERAP would have different numbers. We here in Kandahar did approximately 101,000 but are on pace for about 150-165,000 this year (tower ops).
    Thats busy for a military facility, but far from the busiest. Hell Im at a random contract tower making shit pay and we did 20k more ops than that in a year. Hell, Phoenix/Mesa(Gateway) did 300k/ops. Also, like said... the top airports are closer to a million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColtsATC View Post
    Dude, that's 2 ops a minute, every minute, 24/7/365. Not possible. You can't put airplanes that close together year round
    Not possible...can't put them that close together eh...as I've said before, grab a headset and come on over.

    941,053 in 2006...with the fuel and economy we were down around 900,000 last year.

    And unlike this Iraqi airport that is so much busier than the civilized world, this can be found on FAA.GOV.

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