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    Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    Hi all,

    I am an English teacher and I have a non-native English speaking student who needs my assistance. This student is in flight training now, but would like to study ahead for control tower talk before actually going abroad to learn how to fly. I am looking for real life ATC/Pilot dialog to read to him and have him reply back to me, perhaps at first just reading it together in order to get familiar with the material before flight training.

    If any of you know where I can obtain some real dialogs that would be great. And I am not looking for the humorous side of it, I have found plenty of that through searching Google, but nothing concrete that I can use in our class.

    Any information would be highly appreciated.

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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    One option is to go to LiveATC.com and download some of the live atc broadcast that are on the web site.

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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    The Aeronautical Information Manual (AIM) and the JO 7110.65 are the regulations you seek. Google search may help. I believe you can view them from faa.gov as well.

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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    Hi Mike, yes, I know about liveATC.com, a great site! Though sometimes the lag is not good, but I do see some things can be downloaded, which is nice. But I am also looking for scripts that we can read.

    The AIM seems more just of a manual rather than to help pilots, perhaps I am wrong. I am just looking for some scripts to help him understand. For example, I read it and he listens and responds.

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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    Listen to liveatc, write down what you hear. Nothing like hearing the information first hand.

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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    reminds me of when the terrorists came to socal and asked a bunch of questions.

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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    ^Haha, sad. But true.

    There are transcripts available if you search for NTSB/FAA accident/incident investigations.
    Not quite sure those are the kinds of transcripts you want to be learning though..

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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    She should play the NPR interview with they guys who won the Archie award. If ur not a she, my apologies, I just assume since you are an English teacher.

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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    Hi guys,

    Ok, well firstly I am not a terrorist, but I can see how you wouldn't know either way. And I am male and there are many male English teachers. I am not in the US either, I am an American expat living abroad.

    I am an English teacher, trying to assist someone who is in textbook flight training right now. The next step for him is to do the real stuff in a few months and he wants to practice, he is not a native English speaker.

    I don't really want to give him a bunch of stuff for accidents and investigations, that could make him nervous. So yeah those are not the ideal transcripts I would want to run through with him.

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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    it may be best to let your student wait until he's training with a flight instructor. that way instead of just learning the words, he will learn the meaning behind them. i don't see much benefit to just running back and forth thru "transcripts" because there will be no correlation between, for example, the phrase "hold short" and what you actually do when holding short.

    if you really want to help him, then just work on his english. i used to teach students that came to the US from egypt to learn to fly. there was a huge difference between the ones that took the ESOL course and the ones that didnt. there are things that we can do as instructors that will help with the aviation "lingo".'

    if you are set on getting this done, the only way is going to be for you to listen to liveatc or an equivalent and create your own transcripts. or work on the phonetic alphabet, that would be a good start
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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    As he has been studying by himself and through textbooks and other things, he knows the meanings of those things. This is not the problem for him.

    What we are mostly doing is working on his overall English ability now. ATC controllers in the US speak ungodly fast, faster than other parts of the world, and he is having issues understanding the full things they say. Perhaps it is a listening issue rather than radio communications issue, but I want to prepare him for this in advance. Just by writing this I have gotten another idea, but the scripts would still be fairly useful. Anyway..

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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    Quote Originally Posted by teacher View Post
    What we are mostly doing is working on his overall English ability now. ATC controllers in the US speak ungodly fast, faster than other parts of the world, and he is having issues understanding the full things they say.
    Tell him to not be afraid to ask ATC to repeat it more slowly. Some might give you some heat for it, but so what, he's PIC. Also, the words "student pilot" will work wonders... even if he's not one. Just don't try pulling it in Class B or during a push.

    I've overheard a few foreign pilots -- Air China in particular -- who sound like they're just going down a script that they've memorized. That ends up being a problem when there's anything that deviates from what they expect.

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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    here is a great simulator for teaching aviation english. The ICE trainer is available from Adacel Systems Inc. Here is the brochure.pdf

    And also the website with information

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    No offense, but I would not give you transcripts or recordings of any kind that you haven't been able to find on the internet. I would also highly advise against it for anyone that may be considering it. I understand you're trying to help a student and this was a while ago. If you haven't already, practicing English will be the best help as well as listening to liveATC and writing down everything.

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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    Quote Originally Posted by Radium View Post
    reminds me of when the terrorists came to socal and asked a bunch of questions.
    Wow I never heard about that on the news. Why were they at SOCAL if they carried out their missions on the East Coast?

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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    its because they decided to go to one of the slow facilities that had time to answer their questions.....bwahahahaha i kid, i kid!

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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    Quote Originally Posted by j_time41 View Post
    its because they decided to go to one of the slow facilities that had time to answer their questions.....bwahahahaha i kid, i kid!
    Bro....4 years later? Only one other person on this thread still uses SM lolol

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    Re: Looking for Real ATC/Pilot Dialog

    Quote Originally Posted by esswun View Post
    OK, this might sound stupid to you but I swear I'm being serious. My ex-wife spoke English as a 2nd language (or some other number because she knew Mandarin, Cantonese and some Japanese, but whatever). She flat out just watched a lot of movies or shows in English with English subtitles turned on. Now, as far as the speed goes...the PlayStation 3 and 4 will play back DVDs and BluRays up to 1.5x speed with audio. It's faster than normal and with subtitles so if the student follows along with the reading and the audio at that speed it should help with overall English ability. Sure, the ATC part isn't there but get the fast English down in an entertaining and enjoyable way. I'm sure someone has a PS3 or PS4.

    YouTube video settings will allow up to 2x speed! However, not all videos have subtitles and in my experience even the ones that do are often inaccurate.

    Get some discs from the library or something and watch those shows. It should all come together.
    Bro, this thread was created in 2011.

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