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    Hi! I'm an English teacher trying to help an Argentinian pilot to pass the ICAO exam and I wonder why the suffix 'er' is added to certain numbers, especially to 9 (seen also '4er). Thanks a lot!

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    Re: 9er

    Quote Originally Posted by miribarren View Post
    Hi! I'm an English teacher trying to help an Argentinian pilot to pass the ICAO exam and I wonder why the suffix 'er' is added to certain numbers, especially to 9 (seen also '4er). Thanks a lot!
    It's to eliminate similar sounding numbers. Fower and niner help but people rarely use tree, fower, fife is the way the .65 states I believe

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    Re: 9er

    lots of thanks, Echo Mike!

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    Re: 9er

    The whole "one-syllable word" over a radio frequency can easily be missed. Some planes still use handheld radios - think walkie talkie (I'm looking at you cub pilots). So when you are talking and there's noise in the background, a one-syllable word can definitely get missed or misheard. It's why you say negative and affirmative instead of no and yes. Most numbers are one syllables - but no and nine can sound a lot alike.

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    Re: 9er

    Quote Originally Posted by miribarren View Post
    lots of thanks, Echo Mike!
    Yw as a controller it get annoying saying some of it but oh well if it helps pilots I will do it

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    Re: 9er

    nine is also stated 'niner' because of the german nein (no).

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    Re: 9er

    Quote Originally Posted by papasierra96 View Post
    nine is also stated 'niner' because of the german nein (no).
    That's an urban legend.

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    Re: 9er

    "nine" and "five" sound pretty similar on a sketchy radio. as far as three being tree and four fower.... dunno.

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    Re: 9er

    Three and Two get mixed up a lot. "Tree" helps with that.

    Nine and Five sound similar on the radio.

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    Re: 9er

    Quote Originally Posted by FM_Weasel View Post
    Three and Two get mixed up a lot. "Tree" helps with that.

    Nine and Five sound similar on the radio.
    Only on the crappy UHF radios that the military can't get away from.

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    Re: 9er

    Quote Originally Posted by Stinger View Post
    Only on the crappy UHF radios that the military can't get away from.
    Negative. also on shitty civilian VHF radios that don't get maintenance and tuning that GA pilots can't get away from.

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    Re: 9er

    I remember when I started in atc and some old timer would get pissed and yell "it's NINER" across the cab. How you gonna get pissed about niner but not say a damn thing about 5 and 3. It's like I'm just gonna do part of what the .65 says. Shit still gets me worked up

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    Re: 9er

    Quote Originally Posted by chkwheelsdwn View Post
    I remember when I started in atc and some old timer would get pissed and yell "it's NINER" across the cab. How you gonna get pissed about niner but not say a damn thing about 5 and 3. It's like I'm just gonna do part of what the .65 says. Shit still gets me worked up
    Agreed Can't pick and choose the regs for your own convenience. Some pilots make fun of me for proper phraseology but at the end of the day, I'm the standard guy trying to be a professional.

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