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    Re: FAR 91.117c Speed Under B

    Okay that sounds quite reasonable!

    Another way to look at it is that it takes about 15 sec to slow 10 Kts on average at all altitudes!

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    Re: FAR 91.117c Speed Under B

    I need you to slow yesterday because I'm already way too late in issuing the speed restriction.

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    Re: FAR 91.117c Speed Under B

    Got it! Thanks mate!
    (will be sure to pass on the great info to our line pilots)

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    Re: FAR 91.117c Speed Under B

    How about Descent Clearances.... I know the ICAO states say that the descent must started within 2 mins.... However, my experience that it needs to be done within one minute or less before ATC gives us a second reminder!

    Is it fair to say One min or less is the standard convention?

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    Re: FAR 91.117c Speed Under B

    Quote Originally Posted by digitalpilot View Post
    How about Descent Clearances.... I know the ICAO states say that the descent must started within 2 mins.... However, my experience that it needs to be done within one minute or less before ATC gives us a second reminder!

    Is it fair to say One min or less is the standard convention?
    Try 15 seconds or less. Not a hard and fast rule, but anything beyond that is a little weird unless you're having some sort of problem.

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    Re: FAR 91.117c Speed Under B

    Guys another question regards to Rates of Descent...

    Flying into the busy airspace in and around JKF, EWR, BOS, ORD and LAX... what Rate of Descent would ATC like from us Heavies?

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    Re: FAR 91.117c Speed Under B

    Quote Originally Posted by digitalpilot View Post
    Guys another question regards to Rates of Descent...

    Flying into the busy airspace in and around JKF, EWR, BOS, ORD and LAX... what Rate of Descent would ATC like from us Heavies?
    500 feet per minute is considered the standard for the climb or descent. If you can't maintain that you're supposed to advise ATC.
    CPC @ ZAU

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    Re: FAR 91.117c Speed Under B

    Yes off course 500FPM is min... but just wondering if ATC has a preference...

    For example here in China ATC wants min... 2500FPM for Climb and Descent due to the congested and limited airspace they have to work with!

    Most airspace in China is Military controlled and so for Civilian Transport there are only small corridors in which ATC has any play... therefore 2500FPM ATC requirement in China!

    Just wondering for US!

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    Re: FAR 91.117c Speed Under B

    If you're only doing 500fpm in my airspace you can expect me to ask if anything is wrong or extended vectors for your climb.

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