Looking for Some Information on a Few Locations.

CrazieCntlr

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Any information you have would be great, my class just got our projected locations listing. As I am prior AF/contractor air traffic I know to get as much info as possible ahead of actually making a decision. So even the littlest details help. Thanks everyone ahead of time.

GCN- Grand Canyon National Park Airport
ELP- El Paso International Airport
TEB- Teterboro Airport
BFL- Meadows Field Airport
AMA- Rick Husband Amarillo International Airport
MKG- Muskegon County Airport
LCH- Lake Charles Regional Airport
CID- The Eastern Iowa Airport
TOA- Zamperini Field Airport
CMA- Camarillo Airport
 

accraft

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Feb 20, 2011
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CMA is in Ventura county off of the 101, north west LA. It's a level 6. I lived in the area for a while and have two friends about to arrive there shortly. Camarillo it self is warmer than the coast in Oxnard and a bit more expensive than Oxnard. A lot of strawberry fields and rich people as well as lower middle class. Oxnard is the cheapest place on the California coast to live and is more affordable to live over camarillo but would be a 30 to 45 minute commute. You are nicely segregated from LA there but close enough to visit no problem. About 3.5 hours to San Diego and about an hour or so north on the 101 is Santa Barbara. California has a 10% state tax on top of the federal 25% and at level 6 D1 pay you may struggle at first unless you get a roommate or find a place in Oxnard other wise it's a liveable area for being single or with a family.
 

duranme

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CMA is in Ventura county off of the 101, north west LA. It's a level 6. I lived in the area for a while and have two friends about to arrive there shortly. Camarillo it self is warmer than the coast in Oxnard and a bit more expensive than Oxnard. A lot of strawberry fields and rich people as well as lower middle class. Oxnard is the cheapest place on the California coast to live and is more affordable to live over camarillo but would be a 30 to 45 minute commute. You are nicely segregated from LA there but close enough to visit no problem. About 3.5 hours to San Diego and about an hour or so north on the 101 is Santa Barbara. California has a 10% state tax on top of the federal 25% and at level 6 D1 pay you may struggle at first unless you get a roommate or find a place in Oxnard other wise it's a liveable area for being single or with a family.
You would start at D2 at a level 6. Additionally you get 27.88% locality and 8.5% CIP at CMA.

You ballpark would get $62359 plus $4144ish of CIP ... give or take a thousand. And not including differentials
 
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accraft

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You would start at D2 at a level 6. Additionally you get 27.88% locality and 8.5% CIP at CMA.

You ballpark get around $65,500 give or take a thousand or two.
Touche. I forgot level 6 doesn't have a D1. Thanks for the correction.

Duranme, do you have a list of the facs that all have cip and %?
 

lowapproach

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ELP and AMA offer a low cost of living and the opportunity to attend radar training. On the downside, they are in Texas.
 

duranme

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some might have changed this list is from 2011ish i think.

A90 7.5%
ACK 8.0%
ACY 1.7%
ADS 2.0%
ADW 5.9%
APA 2.9%
APC 10.0%
ARB 5.3%
ARR 6.3%
ASE 8.0%
BDL 5.7%
BED 10.0%
BFI 5.7%
BJC 3.6%
BOS 7.5%
BUR 10.0%
BWI 1.7%
C90 8.0%
CCR 10.0%
CDW 10.0%
ATCSCC 4.6%
CMA 8.5%
CNO 2.0%
CRQ 7.1%
D01 3.2%
D21 2.4%
DAL 2.5%
DCA 3.3%
DEN 3.2%
DPA 5.6%
DTW 2.4%
EMT 10.0%
EWR 8.4%
FAI 8.0%
FCM 5.6%
FRG 10.0%
GCN 8.0%
GRR 1.1%
HEF 6.6%
HIO 1.5%
HPN 10.0%
HWD 10.0%
IAD 4.6%
ISP 10.0%
JFK 10.0%
LAN 1.1%
LAX 8.1%
LGA 10.0%
LGB 10.0%
LVK 10.0%
M98 4.2%
MDW 8.0%
MIC 5.6%
MKE 2.3%
MMU 6.7%
MRY 10.0%
MSN 0.7%
MSP 4.2%
N90 10.0%
NCT 3.2%
O90 10.0%
OAK 10.0%
OGG 3.7%
ONT 2.2%
ORD 10.0%
P80 0.9%
PAE 3.1%
PAO 10.0%
PDX 0.9%
PHL 3.1%
PNE 6.4%
POC 10.0%
POU 2.8%
PSP 3.6%
PTK 2.0%
PVD 5.6%
PWK 10.0%
PWM 1.5%
RHV 10.0%
RNO 1.4%
ROC 1.9%
S46 7.0%
SAN 7.0%
SBA 10.0%
SCK 1.4%
SCT 7.4%
SEA 7.0%
SEE 7.1%
SFO 10.0%
SJC 10.0%
SJU 4.0%
SMF 3.5%
SMO 10.0%
SNA 6.8%
STP 3.3%
STS 10.0%
TEB 10.0%
TMB 3.6%
TOA 10.0%
TUS 1.7%
U90 1.4%
VNY 10.0%
Y90 4.6%
YIP 4.0%
ZAU 5.1%
ZDC 4.6%
ZMA 1.8%
ZNY 10.0%
ZOA 10.0%
ZSE 3.1%
ZSU 3.1%
 

Jax

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Any information you have would be great, my class just got our projected locations listing. As I am prior AF/contractor air traffic I know to get as much info as possible ahead of actually making a decision. So even the littlest details help. Thanks everyone ahead of time.

GCN- Grand Canyon National Park Airport
ELP- El Paso International Airport
TEB- Teterboro Airport
BFL- Meadows Field Airport
AMA- Rick Husband Amarillo International Airport
MKG- Muskegon County Airport
LCH- Lake Charles Regional Airport
CID- The Eastern Iowa Airport
TOA- Zamperini Field Airport
CMA- Camarillo Airport

TEB is a great first facility for those looking to career advance to the level 12's. Good mix of traffic, very complex airspace with some limited radar gets you the experience needed to succeed when you make the jump to busier facilities. The main drawback is that it is located in a very high cost of living area.
 

corn4ahead

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You don't start at D2. You are stuck at AG pay until you get certified on a few positions. We don't get D2 until we certify on local at my lvl 6 up/down.
 

RadarContact11

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Sucks for you but he does :) Per red book anyone with 52 consecutive weeks will immediately get bumped up to lowest level above AG for the facility.

You don't start at D2. You are stuck at AG pay until you get certified on a few positions. We don't get D2 until we certify on local at my lvl 6 up/down.
 

StuSEL

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You know where.
MKG is located in a beautiful area of western Michigan right along the Lake Michigan shoreline. The only downsides to this location are harsh winters, particularly the last three years' winters, and the slow traffic that comes with that season. The other three seasons are beautiful. The area is fairly young, with only 12% of residents being over the age of 65. Cost of living is fairly low. There is great access to 70 MPH highways throughout the state, and traffic is not bad at all.

MKG is a Level 5 with a radar approach control due to its TRSA. As with all midwest TRACONs, they're busy in the summer and slow in the winter. MKG has an interesting mix of GA traffic, a Coast Guard base, and a few commercial airline operations.

One potential benefit is that MKG's TRACON is in the process of being consolidated to Kalamazoo (AZO). There will likely be an opportunity in the future to transfer to AZO's consolidated TRACON once it opens, providing you with a pay boost into the higher level facility. Plans are supposed to be coming out this year but have taken a while to do so. Unfortunately that probably means MKG will become a Level 4 once its TRACON is removed.
 

Ostrago

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I took the wife up for a helicopter tour at the Grand Canyon last year. While there I stopped by GCN for a tour. The guys talked about how incredibly slow it was and that the closest Wal-Mart was like 1.5hrs away. Everything near the Grand Canyon is expensive. The bulk of their traffic is the helicopters from the tours. I wish I knew more for ya but at least it's something? Good Luck.