Thanks for the heads up. Looks like I'll definitly shoot for ZTL. I guess I'll put Florida as my other georgraphic preferance. Would jax or miami be better than Memphis? I clearly want to stay in the Southeast, and Atlanta if possible.They are severely understaffed and are forcing ATCs to work overtime, but you will not become fully certified, if you are an OTS applicant with no prior ATC experience, and you go to A80 right off the bat. Trust me, don't go to A80 right off the bat because your job security is zero. It would be best to hope for ZTL or apply for ZME and then bid for A80 when you have ATC experience.
u were probably told by FAA management of some sort. they add trainees with no certifications to their numbers. unusable bodies look good on paper (for FAA purposes) but their worthless for the operation. again, i highly doubt their OVERstaffed. don't let FAA manglement blind u. they've done it to Congress already.I don't know about the number of CPCs and trainees at certain facilities, but I do know that both PDK and ATL are overstaffed from the numbers they were authorized to have from what I have been told.
exactly. all lies, or misleading truths. FAA manglement has had to justify to Congress the mess were in. their biggest lies has to do with manning. they hire a bunch of off the street people and tell Congress that facilities are overstaffed now. when in reality there are a major shortage in CONTROLLERS.I was told by very high up FAA management
First time poster, 20+ years ATCS at ZHU. There are no ARTCC's overstaffed, taking into consideration retirements over the next three years. Some may be taking fewer than others, but nobody is overstaffed in the Centers. Towers like ATL with high pay and good locales usually try to fill with promotions from lower-level facilities, hence fewer trainees. No such thing as a lower-level center to promote from.I was told by very high up FAA management of facilities that were overstaffed and ones that were looking for hires. ATL and PDK were not part of the discussion for facilities looking for hires.
friend or not, he's not necessarily lying to u. he's just telling u misleading truths. he's counting all the 100's of useless developmentals in his system. that's all i'm saying. they are NOT OVERSTAFFED. ask ur dad.I disagree only because this guy was a controller with my dad at ATL. I believe his recommendations and thoughts were genuine and true.
it's a pain in the butt cuz there isn't enough CPC's in order to train the new guys. CPC's are too busy working overtime to train people up. when your working overtime constantly then your combining positions. when positions are combining you can't train as much.I find it amusing that everyone is talking about the staffing shortage, yet it is such a huge pain in the butt to get the training and become certified.
ATL or not i still doubt it. their not gonna take OTS at the busiest airport in the nation. they won't get FAA transfers cuz nobody is gonna transfer to a busy airport and take a pay cut. that leaves CTI and VRA. i doubt they took too many of those either. so i still would say that ATL is not overstaffed. they might be "overstaffed" by the official numbers that the FAA changed to help decieve congress. but they add in developmentals to those inflated numbers and use the new lower "acceptable" staffing numbers instead of what they really need to run that facility.I never said ZTL was overstaffed. ATL and PDK are most definitely not looking for hires right now, especially OTS applicants. To me, that means they are at, near, or over 100% of what they need for those facilities. If any facility is going to be overstaffed, I am sure that ATL would be that facility.