i wasn't implying that you guys keep everyone you get, that would be silly. I know some schools only keep you if they like you as opposed to whether or not you actually prove yourself. Preciate the input. More than likely will be showing up on the facility's doorstep beginning of May ready to work my ass off.the downstairs training program is actually ok. we have a couple good guys teaching.......but we aren't going to keep you just because we need people. you still have to prove yourself. this airspace is incredibly complex. lots of non radar and there are no high and low sectors. it gets pretty wild in the winter time on the center side.