Switching Areas

Greenhouse

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I'm an R-side trainee at a center, and after reaching my max hours, my training got suspended. I am facing a TRB, and has anyone ever heard of a trainee switching to a different area as a result of a TRB. The part I'm struggling with is sequencing to the approach control, but everything else is fine. There's one area in my center that has no airports, and is all high altitude. I know I would for sure succeed there. I haven't found any precedent for trainees switching areas, so I wanted to feel around and see if that's a thing.
 

NovemberEcho

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I don’t believe so because that would officially say one area is easier than another, and since they pay the same that’s bad juju
 

Stinger

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I don’t believe so because that would officially say one area is easier than another, and since they pay the same that’s bad juju
No it doesn't. It just says that his skills are more suited for a different specialty. Just like how someone in that area may struggle but be successful in the area working more approach duties.
 

NovemberEcho

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No it doesn't. It just says that his skills are more suited for a different specialty. Just like how someone in that area may struggle but be successful in the area working more approach duties.
thats the reason given for washouts not being sent to Islip sector.

when people washout they’re sent to lower level facilities. If you sent them to a different area in the same building for the same pay, the FAA is officially saying that that is in essence a lower level area.
 

Stinger

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thats the reason given for washouts not being sent to Islip sector.

when people washout they’re sent to lower level facilities. If you sent them to a different area in the same building for the same pay, the FAA is officially saying that that is in essence a lower level area.
Makes sense in a combined approach building when not all the separate areas were/are equal. You've got Islip...NCT has Area E for SMF/RNO...PCT has James River for RIC...there's probably others at the other big tracons.

Different than the Center environment.

But in OPs question, changing areas is definitely a recommendation that a TRB can give...doesn't even have to reach a TRB and the switch can happen for many reasons. A TRB does not always result in a washout.

Once the training is terminated and they get sent to the NEST, is when they'll be ineligible for an area switch.
 

lowapproach

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It can happen, but usually only if the TRB feels that the trainee has not and will not receive a fair opportunity to certify in his or her current area if given more hours. Sending you to a new area would be an absolute last resort, since it would mean that you would have to start over from the D-sides.