Visual Approach

rabindra

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how far the the a/c on visual approach deviate from the instrument approach track and profile
 

j_time41

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In the USA, However far they want...a visual is not to be compared to any instrument approach OR profile. They can do whatever they want
 

Stinger

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j_time41, you mean they can fly like vfr ?
A visual approach means the aircraft can see the airport and remain in VFR conditions. There's no requirement to follow any instrument approach profiles on a visual.
 

clr2lnd

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thise are called charted visual approaches and are not instrument profiles. Example: Stadium Visual rwy 29 at EWR
Most cva’s have rnav fixes on them and are flown with instrument guidance (cross gimee @ 030 then turn left, etc -as in your example) Adherence to the cva is required. So in response to the OP; in some instances they can’t “just fly whereever they want on a visual approach clearance”.
 

kaeXo

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Most cva’s have rnav fixes on them and are flown with instrument guidance (cross gimee @ 030 then turn left, etc -as in your example) Adherence to the cva is required. So in response to the OP; in some instances they can’t “just fly whereever they want on a visual approach clearance”.
Yes but as you stated a cva has some instrument guidance that they follow and isnt a true visual approach. CVAs and VAs are different. A true visual approach the pilot decides when to turn base final etc at his discretion, headings and altitude above the MVA. Now if he deviates too much obviously something would be said or done to maintain positive control.

So in a sense they really wouldnt be allowed to fly anywhere and everywhere.
 
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clr2lnd

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Yes but as you stated a cva has some instrument guidance that they follow and isnt a true visual approach. CVAs and VAs are different. A true visual approach the pilot decides when to turn base final etc at his discretion, headings and altitude above the MVA. Now if he deviates too much obviously something would be said or done to maintain positive control.

So in a sense they really wouldnt be allowed to fly anywhere and everywhere.

Still a visual approach. Just charted. Many times the base turn is controlled for a visual approach clearance as well. And even more often, they’re cleared visual approach, follow type aircraft. Glad your last sentence has restated what we all have said though.
 

Purplelobj

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Shoot... In Denver we assign them a heading to join, occasionally an altitude to maintain and clear them for the visual.
 

NovemberEcho

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Shoot... In Denver we assign them a heading to join, occasionally an altitude to maintain and clear them for the visual.
that happens lots of places, especially since the purple line pilots will accept a visual and then just keep flying and intercept the final at 90 degrees instead of cutting in. Can really screw up the guy behind them!