VRA Resignation Letter

Mr.Texas

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Hopefully Keith will be back on a better contract than the greenbook! Good luck to ya Keith even though you may never see this post.
 

ATCBOY

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If the morale is really bad in the centers because there are way more personnel. It should be a little better in the Tower you may think.
 

Mr.Texas

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yeah in the tower , well at ours at least it's easier for co-workers to get together and do things that boost morale.
 

towerflower

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Morale really depends on the management within the facility. The fact is you will find sups and ATMs who are now drunk with power and abuse it on a daily basis. The controller who resigned came from a facility that has a morale problem. This is the facility where management forced the controllers to work as they were being poisoned by toxic fumes. They waited 8 days to test the air and refused to let the center take over the airspace or move the controllers to the center to work the approach. 8 controllers suffered serious health problems as a result on this exposure--a botched roofing job where a roofing material/substance dripped down on the controllers and equipment and fumes filled the base building for days. After all of this they harassed the controllers who where out sick and seeing specialists and the FAA gave the ATM, the Ops manager and the AF manager an award for their handling of the event.
 

shaight

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Morale is pretty bad at Alcatraz Center. I think that the count of resignations in the past year is up to 25 or 30 with several more leaning in that direction. The white book put facilities in expensive metropolis places in a bad spot because no one can afford to live there. Morale is bad not only a pay side but also on a release side, if you cant move around and better your career you wont be happy either.
 

zabnut

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Morale is pretty bad at Alcatraz Center. I think that the count of resignations in the past year is up to 25 or 30 with several more leaning in that direction. The white book put facilities in expensive metropolis places in a bad spot because no one can afford to live there. Morale is bad not only a pay side but also on a release side, if you cant move around and better your career you wont be happy either.
Someone recently posted that people are getting checked out in a year and 1/2 on average there. How can they do that with so few CPCs? Zab has even less CPCs right now, seems like we need to get with the ZOA program :lol:

Morale sucks at ZAB too, tons of people resigning. Latest trend is 5-10 year CPCs are leaving.

But our local Rev said, "Things Sho' Nuff gettin' Betta'" God Bless 'em!
 

Towerboss

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Most if not all up/downs will be going away and there wont be much money at the ones left... like working at ACT.


Not sure what you mean but I dont feel miserable at all right now after leaving. I feel so much better not working at the center. Im going to enjoy this happiness and pray my next facility isnt nothing like the first. After seeing the poll I really want an up/down facility! :)
 

zabnut

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DAMN!!!!!!! Guys making the big bucks as 5-10 year CPC's are leaving that fat check behind? WTF? If the Agency is getting worse right now what will eventually happen?I mean what could be the last possible solution to solve the ATC crisis besides more pay?
Ratified Contract?

Treating people with respect?

Time off with family? Currently the only people paying the price for the short staffing are the employees. I am not in charge of hiring but I am certainly paying the price for the lack of hiring the "Right people at the right place and right time"

There is a lot more to life than money. I want to be happy I COULD be happy working traffic if I was just left alone to do it, not bugged about not having a certain shirt or pants on by management, 4 to 6 hour OT assignments on my freaking day off or to be sent home after 2 hours just because.

Senority means little when you are second on a crew of THREE. Only two leave slots per day when everyone else wants vacation because we are short staffed is coming next year, that will make me happy. Nice thing is Supes get TWO leave slots right now and will continue to do so (Out of 5 working per day).

Lead by example my rear.
 

littlebrick

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Morale at my facility is pretty bad. Everyone working six day work weeks every week with no hope in sight has drained each and everyone of us. I think if management would give us hope that things like staffing would improve we would be okay, but that is not the case. Everyone is just desperate to get out. They just don't realize that the grass is just as brown on the other side.
 

ATCBOY

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I knew it was too good to be true and was waiting for someone to spoil it lol. There are no FAA centers that's better than anywhere else. Maybe Memphis? I have a friend there that wants me to apply. He said its nice but I know better than that..
 

oncetrue83

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ZME is not that bad, but not that great either. ATCBOY send me a pm I got a question to ask you, but can't figure out how to pm on here haha.